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09-10-2023, 03:04 PM
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Montana Fan
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Location: Long Isalnd
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Middle of trip brakes not working correctly
Hi all,
I’m in the middle of a trip and my brakes are working 60% at best. I’m dreading checking the drums for a bad inner grease seal with this EZ lube axles. If there is a bad seal, I know what to do. If not, what should I look for. I’m not worried about worn shoes as I only have about 12k miles in the FW. They are electric brakes. I will say that I had an issue about a year ago, my break away switch was activated without my knowledge for at least two days. Did I burn out any of the mechanisms? How do I check?
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Don and Kathleen
2019 Montana 3791RD 20th anniversary.
2014 Ram 3500 Dually CC, CTD, Aisin “Kasper”
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09-10-2023, 08:55 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Box Elder
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It's possible you only have one axle's brakes working due to a broken wire. You can jack it up, pull the break away switch and see if all the wheels are locked up. If it's greased brakes, you will have to pull all the drums to check. Prior to us upgrading to discs, I pulled the drums to check the brakes and repack the bearings, and found one brake assembly totally destroyed, and had no indication there was a problem. Good luck, you have your work cut out for you.
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Bob & Becky
2012 3402RL
2012 Chevy 2500HD D/A CC 4WD
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09-11-2023, 08:16 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jan 2022
Location: Shingle Springs
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M.O.C. #30417
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Scootsk
Hi all,
I’m in the middle of a trip and my brakes are working 60% at best. I’m dreading checking the drums for a bad inner grease seal with this EZ lube axles. If there is a bad seal, I know what to do. If not, what should I look for. I’m not worried about worn shoes as I only have about 12k miles in the FW. They are electric brakes. I will say that I had an issue about a year ago, my break away switch was activated without my knowledge for at least two days. Did I burn out any of the mechanisms? How do I check?
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If you have hydraulic jacks raise the unit with wheels off the ground, spin the wheels and have DW apply the brakes in the truck. See if all are working. You could have burnt the magnets if the breakaway was on for 2 days. If you use the EZ lube it's very possibly you have grease on the drums.
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Tony & Donna
2022 Montana HC, 295RL, Solar Flex 400, Onan 3600 LPG, 2K inverter, 200AH Lithium. 2020 GMC Denali 2500 6.6 Duramax, Demco 21K Auto Slide
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09-11-2023, 08:23 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Salem
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If no brakes are working I would look for a bad connection or broken wire.
Lynwood
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09-11-2023, 08:36 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Mar 2019
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Could be a few things. We were experiencing similar symptoms. I first pulled off the wheel hubs to check the brakes and the wiring to the magnets. Right Rear I found that the cam on the actuator arm was just missing. How it could be missing is still a mystery. As a result the arm was allowed to travel too far and broke a wire. I manufactured a new cam and repaired the wiring. Then I decided to pull the wiring from inside the axles and replace it with exterior wiring zip-tied to the axle. I’m glad I did. I found one of the wires worn through and causing an intermittent short.
So fresh wiring and repaired actuator arm solved our issues. Brakes working well again. Do a thorough inspection…you’ll likely find the issue.
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2018 Montana HC 305RL / HW Progressive EMS
2015 RAM 3500 Laramie Longhorn Crew Cab 4x4 DRW / Demco Recon Hitch on RAM Puck Ball
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09-15-2023, 05:33 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Apr 2019
Location: Long Isalnd
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M.O.C. #23929
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Today I had the opportunity to look underneath and found this. The curb side rear brake wires seem to be cut or were never attached. I did confirm that I have no brakes on the rear axle. Fronts seem to be working fine but are just not enough. Question is, how would these be attached? Do I need to worry about polarity? It seems to be the main feed as there are two wires attached (black side) with one set going through the axle tube to the street side rear brake and the other into the curb side brake drum. Can I just hook the white wires to the joined blacks?
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Don and Kathleen
2019 Montana 3791RD 20th anniversary.
2014 Ram 3500 Dually CC, CTD, Aisin “Kasper”
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09-15-2023, 08:04 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jan 2022
Location: Shingle Springs
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M.O.C. #30417
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Scootsk
Today I had the opportunity to look underneath and found this. The curb side rear brake wires seem to be cut or were never attached. I did confirm that I have no brakes on the rear axle. Fronts seem to be working fine but are just not enough. Question is, how would these be attached? Do I need to worry about polarity? It seems to be the main feed as there are two wires attached (black side) with one set going through the axle tube to the street side rear brake and the other into the curb side brake drum. Can I just hook the white wires to the joined blacks?
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No polarity. Just reconnect them using wire nuts and tape.
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Tony & Donna
2022 Montana HC, 295RL, Solar Flex 400, Onan 3600 LPG, 2K inverter, 200AH Lithium. 2020 GMC Denali 2500 6.6 Duramax, Demco 21K Auto Slide
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09-16-2023, 11:38 AM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Apr 2019
Location: Long Isalnd
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M.O.C. #23929
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Foldbak
No polarity. Just reconnect them using wire nuts and tape.
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Done. We had a safe trip to our next destination. Thank you
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Don and Kathleen
2019 Montana 3791RD 20th anniversary.
2014 Ram 3500 Dually CC, CTD, Aisin “Kasper”
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