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Old 09-13-2017, 08:18 AM   #21
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This comment seems almost inconsequential but I have no problems towing or braking my High Country with a 2500 single wheeled truck BUT I can park it in my standard two car garage along with my wife's car. I doubt I could do that with a dually.
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Old 09-13-2017, 09:22 AM   #22
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This comment seems almost inconsequential but I have no problems towing or braking my High Country with a 2500 single wheeled truck BUT I can park it in my standard two car garage along with my wife's car. I doubt I could do that with a dually.
And what if you do go over a few hundred pounds. It's not the end of the world, no big deal.
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Old 09-13-2017, 09:32 AM   #23
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And what if you do go over a few hundred pounds. It's not the end of the world, no big deal.
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"A few hundred" 👌 My F250 would have been well over 1000# over payload.
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Old 09-13-2017, 12:50 PM   #24
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One thing to remember when comparing the F250 / F350 SRW to the F350 DRW. The F350 SRW and the F350 DRW are not the same truck. The SRW F350 has the Sterling 10.5 rear end and the F350 DRW has the Dana 80 rear end. The Dana is a much heavier axle with larger wheel bearings because the spindle is larger in diameter.

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Old 09-13-2017, 01:58 PM   #25
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One thing to remember when comparing the F250 / F350 SRW to the F350 DRW. The F350 SRW and the F350 DRW are not the same truck. The SRW F350 has the Sterling 10.5 rear end and the F350 DRW has the Dana 80 rear end. The Dana is a much heavier axle with larger wheel bearings because the spindle is larger in diameter.

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Old 09-13-2017, 05:23 PM   #26
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i love these non confrontational topics. I didn't have a truck until after I bought my Monty. I took the label of my Monty to my Commercial truck salesman at the Ram dealer and he pulled out the towing guide from Dodge and we both agreed that 1 Ton was the only answer and in 2014 it took a DRW to meet the specs of my Monty with any margin unless I lost 100 lbs. and left my wife at home. So I ended up with a 3500 DRW 4x2. I love the stability of the DRW in high winds in the mountains.
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Old 09-13-2017, 05:45 PM   #27
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Well there you go the F-250/350's should be out of the equation now due to axle/rear end's making it much easier for you to pick. The GM 2500/3500 is essentially the same truck except the spring packs. Not sure about the Dodge SRW's, I have had both the GM 2500Hd (2015 duramax) & now the 3500Hd (duramax) and quite frankly both towed my Montana 3790RD with no issues, felt safe, stopped fine, handled crosswinds fine etc with me behind the wheel.

I really like the upgraded HP & Torque of the 2017 GM and there were some tweaks to the steering & transmission as well otherwise essentially the same truck inside and out except the 2015 was a Chev LTZ & this one is GMC Denali. Both SRW as I (me) won't have a dually for countless reasons I have against them one of em being can't get one in the garage but there are more.

I watch the way Dodge's squat with a 5'ers smaller than ours on the back of em, my 2500 didn't squat out of lvl and the 3500 sits pretty much the same with the trailer on it and both handle pretty much the same.

As I said earlier go drive em and buy the one you like best that you can afford. Good luck brother....
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Old 09-13-2017, 09:09 PM   #28
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I have read all these posts and want to thank you all for your input / suggestions. I am going this weekend to test drive some vehicles while next weekend going to NC to look at some camper places with my truck specs. Hoping that between the Camping world and Truck world, I will get the camper of my dreams and a truck to get me there. Hitting the road nearest you sometime soon.

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Old 09-14-2017, 01:00 AM   #29
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When it comes to truck selection, there is never a shortage of opinions, that's for sure. Everyone here likes (or loves) their trucks. That aside, I've found the people here to be very unbiased when it comes to this topic. Everyone wants to see you outfitted with the right truck for your needs. I never see brand-bashing on this forum. So, the advice you've gotten is honest and fair. Also spot-on from what I've read. I'm sure you'll make a good decision and be sure to let us know what you decided on. Best wishes in your search.
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Old 09-14-2017, 08:15 AM   #30
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I too have a High Country 370br. A 1 ton diesel SRW pulls it just fine, mine is a 2016 Ram. Also being my first diesel at this moment couldn't imagine going back to a gasser. Much better fuel mileage and more than enough torque to pull that trailer. The decision factor on the Ram was it would fit in the garage. The pin weight for this fiver is sevreal hundred pounds more with simply propane and batteries.

Enjoy the search and you will love the trailer.
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Old 09-16-2017, 05:22 PM   #31
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We have a 2016 diesel Chevy High Country 3500 dually and 2017 3820FK and it pulls like a dream. If your going to haul a Montana you need a 1ton, for us the dual rear wheel make it much more stable. whatever you choose, enjoy
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Old 10-15-2017, 05:08 AM   #32
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The thing I see absent from all of this information is!!!

Long or short bed.

This is my opinion and is again the choice is your preference for what you want.

The long bed quad cab DRW trucks are a monster, you will have to work a little harder getting in and out of some of the RV parking spots because of the length of the coupled unit. It will not fit in the average garage.

Now for the plus you can put an entire sheet of plywood in the bed an close the tailgate, you will not ever damage the trailer or truck in a tight turn getting in or out of a parking place or when having to do a “U” turn in tight quarters because you made the wrong turn a mile back. LOL

Now the short bed quad cab SRW.

You will need a slider hitch to be able to make tight turns getting in and out of RV parking places. You will have to use the slider to make tight “U” turns. You can’t put an entire sheet of plywood without loading part of it on the open tail gate. The day you forget about the interference between the trailer and truck in a tight turn you will have expensive damage to both.

Now for the plus it will fit in your garage; it is a little easier getting in and out of the RV parking spaces partially in the older parks.

I have met people in my travels that were in the process of having the turn damage repaired on their short bed but would still not change.

Then I have also met people in my travels that prefer the long bed and would not change.

My next truck will be a Quad Cab Long bed DRW because I use a truck whether or not it is towing a trailer. We have about 400 miles short of 200,000 on the Silverado and half of that is pulling the fifth wheel. Sometimes we put 3,000 miles on truck and trailer in less than a week. Then a week latter put the same 3,000 miles on both going in the other direction.

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Old 10-15-2017, 09:04 AM   #33
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Suggest a SRW longbed 1ton for your needs. DRW is probably overkill. I prefer Fords, but really, all three have their positives. Drive all three and and go with your gut.
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Old 10-15-2017, 01:56 PM   #34
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Or you could just do this....
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Old 10-15-2017, 02:40 PM   #35
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Hay I think I'm going to get me a rig just like that. 40 miles to the gallon and in the Tetons. What a deal.
Someone said you could get a full sheet of plywood in a long bed. I'm a country boy, you can get 50 bales of hay on a long bed.
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Old 10-15-2017, 02:50 PM   #36
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Think his sticker on the door is okay Lynwood.....? I'm guessing ya as it ain't a commercial vehicle......LMFAO
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Old 10-15-2017, 05:00 PM   #37
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Yea you can giggle all you wont but they are still getting 40 miles to the gallon.
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Old 10-16-2017, 02:20 PM   #38
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I made a mistake when I bought in 2012. I thought the 3500 Duramax would be $4-5000 more, but a year later I looked and it is only $1500-2000 more (and a payload of 11,500 instead of 10,000 I think).
Another thing someone else briefly mentioned - the 2012 chevy was 6 inches and 12 inches shorter (shortbed) than the ford/ram. This allowed me to park it in the garage (6 inches to spare on sides) and have about 18-24 inches to get past on the front. I like to keep my vehicles garaged.
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Old 10-16-2017, 02:33 PM   #39
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Suggest a SRW longbed 1ton for your needs. DRW is probably overkill. I prefer Fords, but really, all three have their positives. Drive all three and and go with your gut.
IMHO DRW is never an overkill if you are towing something 13'3" tall. Most Montana RV are 16,000 GVWR. That's 3500-4000 on the axle of the truck. Luckily, I have a DRW with 6000 available on the rear axle. When you add the hitch, aux. fuel tank, Honda Generator, tool boxes, and ladder, I'm fine. However, I could not find a SRW that gave me any overhead.

And beside when I was in Texas, NM, Colorado, and Montana, I felt normal and could park upfront with the other Duallies instead of in the back with the other SRW
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Old 10-16-2017, 04:20 PM   #40
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I am that guy that stays within specs. We did not purchase the truck to put in the garage, go through car washes, bank or fast food drive trough's or to fit on a normal parking space .It had to pull a 16K Montana and stay within specs.
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