Journey with Confidence RV GPS App RV Trip Planner RV LIFE Campground Reviews RV Maintenance Take a Speed Test Free 7 Day Trial ×
 

Go Back   Montana Owners Club - Keystone Montana 5th Wheel Forum > MOC Technical Forums > Additions & Improvements
Click Here to Login

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
Old 06-08-2015, 05:48 PM   #1
Gcasta
Established Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: Southern
Posts: 27
M.O.C. #14578
Got a New Set of Shoes

Got around to changing out my brakes to disc. It ended up being a lot easier than I expected. Took two days but still have to finish hooking up actuator and bledding brakes.



Ended up going with Kodiak 13" rotors and Titan Brake-Rite actuator. Got them from Etrailer. Used Timken bearings that are USA made. All the brake lines and fittings were from the local auto parts store. Total cost was about $1,500 dollars and a few busted knuckles.

Was suprised when I took off the old brakes, 3 blown seals and pretty much all the brakes were toast with this one being the worst. Pretty sad from a unit that is less than a year old and less than 6,000 miles.

My trailer has the E-Z lube axles and it looks some one got a little crazy with the grease gun and blew out the seals, they were filled solid with grease and it was also all over the brake assy. Never did like the E-Z lube setup, prefer to dis-assemble and inspect and repack on a regular schedule.
Can't wait to get it on the road.
 
Gcasta is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-08-2015, 06:04 PM   #2
Dam Worker
Montana Master
 
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: West Richland
Posts: 1,253
M.O.C. #17164
That brake shoe looks terrible. That is not acceptable for one year and six thousand miles. I guess I will have to keep a real close eye on mine. What kind of brake controller is on your truck? Also were you doing a lot of traveling through the mountains? I am sure you will be real happy with the disk brakes.

Tom Marty
__________________
Dam Worker is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-08-2015, 06:14 PM   #3
Gcasta
Established Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: Southern
Posts: 27
M.O.C. #14578
Not much mountain driving. Do have a couple of passes we go over to get out of L.A. but since exhaust brake is used on descents very little braking is needed. I think the leaking seals getting grease all over the brake assy had something to do with it. I did notice that the adjuster on that brake was out pretty far.
The brake controller is factory set-up which is compatible with EOH actuators.
Gcasta is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-09-2015, 01:34 AM   #4
1retired06
Montana Master
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Lake Gaston
Posts: 8,773
M.O.C. #12156
Wow, good timing on that brake upgrade.
__________________
Mike and Lorraine
2002 3655 FL, 2005 3650RK
2010 3665RE, 2015 3910FB
F350 crew cab dually 6.7
1retired06 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-09-2015, 06:32 AM   #5
jcurtis934
Montana Master
 
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Pensacola (mail forward service)
Posts: 3,198
M.O.C. #13740
That is a beautiful sight...making me jealous...working on wife to let me do this...no luck yet...good job! John
__________________
2012 F350 6.7 L dually, 2013 3800RE with 6 pt leveling, Sumitomo 17.5" load range h tires, Samsung 18 cu ft residential fridge, 8k Morryde I.S. with disc brakes. Full timing since 2012.
jcurtis934 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-09-2015, 01:45 PM   #6
jlb27537
Montana Master
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Depends on temps
Posts: 1,648
M.O.C. #13157
To do that to brakes in 6K miles, something is not set up right.

You truck has a exhaust brake from hell, and will stop the truck and trailer under normal use with very light braking.

I would assume you are using the tow/haul mode and ALWAYS run with the exhaust brake on. Your dash controller on heavy electric 5.0.

I just had my bearings packed @ about 12K miles and the trailer brakes are just getting seated in. I have 7K Dexter axles. 2" shoes.

I suspect you will experience short pad life if you do not do something to correct the over braking of the trailer.

Jim
__________________

2012 Ram Laramie 3500 DRW 4x4 3.73 Tow Max Pkg B&W Companion 60 gal RDS aux fuel tank. 2014 Montana 3150RL, 2 A/C's, Leather, 6 Point Jacks, Splendede WD2100XC, Mor/ryde X-Factor, Duravis 250 tires with TST 507RV monitors. 2 x Honda EU2000's
jlb27537 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-09-2015, 04:11 PM   #7
sambam
Montana Master
 
sambam's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Bridgewater
Posts: 1,196
M.O.C. #13166
Agree, something was amiss for your brakes to be that worn after 6000 miles. But, man oh man, would I love to do the disc brake upgrade on mine. Awesome job!
__________________

2010 Montana 3455SA, Mor/Ryde pin, wet bolts, TST 507, Progressive HW50C, GY G614
2019 Silverado D/A 3500HD LTZ DRW CC
B&W Companion
sambam is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-09-2015, 06:15 PM   #8
Gcasta
Established Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: Southern
Posts: 27
M.O.C. #14578
I agree, something was not right. I do have my brake controller adjusted properly and use the exhaust brake anytime I am towing. My feeling is that with the blown grease seals a tech must have adjusted the brakes to compensate for the lack of braking. I did notice that the brake adjustment screw was almost all the way out and since I have not adjustd the brakes at all I have to assume is was done prior to taking delivery. I guess this is one more thing needing checking duting the PDI.
On my previous SOB in the seven years I had it I never needed new brakes and they looked nothing like this. I did annually grease and inspect them.
Gcasta is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-10-2015, 01:09 AM   #9
WaltBennett
Montana Master
 
WaltBennett's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Hanover
Posts: 1,471
M.O.C. #13325
What you said about someone using a powered grease gun on your EZ-Lube hubs is probably right and that's why the brakes are toast. It's also why I grease my own. Haven't found anywhere that I'd trust to do it right yet.
__________________
WaltBennett is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
New shoes for the Classic bncinwv Tow Vehicles & Towing 8 05-05-2016 12:35 PM
Shoes, Shoes and more Shoes Bill-N-Donna Sitting around the Campfire 7 09-04-2012 05:22 AM
New Shoes for the TV randye Tow Vehicles & Towing 9 12-07-2010 04:13 AM
brake shoes paddler67 Maintenance 13 12-04-2009 10:14 AM
Brake shoes?? skyguy Montana Problems, Problem Solving & Technical Help 5 04-25-2005 04:33 PM

» Featured Campgrounds

Reviews provided by

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.3
Disclaimer:

This website is not affiliated with or endorsed by Montana RV, Keystone RV Company or any of its affiliates. This is an independent, unofficial site.


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 07:15 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.9
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.