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10-06-2007, 02:05 PM
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Established Member
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Torrington
Posts: 23
M.O.C. #7038
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water tank indicator lights
This is my 2nd fifth wheel and first Montana. 2006 3475 delivery this spring
How well do the lights work for black,grey,fresh and galley tanks work. My empty black water tank shows 2/3 full and I wonder whether this another problem Ishould insist on fixing.
If the performance of the lights is generally poor I don't want to waste my time. (On the other hand)
Thanks in advance
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10-06-2007, 02:08 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Winfield
Posts: 7,327
M.O.C. #6846
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Poor poorer and poorest.
Bingo
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Bingo and Cathy - Our adventures begin in the hills of WV. We are blessed by our 2014 3850FL Big Sky (previous 2011 3750FL and 2007 3400RL) that we pull with a 2007 Chevy Silverado Classic DRW CC dually.
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10-06-2007, 02:24 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Forestville
Posts: 6,025
M.O.C. #496
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The lights are useless.
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10-06-2007, 02:29 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Arroyo Grande
Posts: 504
M.O.C. #6460
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They work very well, just don't believe them.
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10-06-2007, 02:31 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Maurice
Posts: 224
M.O.C. #7633
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ditto to the above comments. you will learn from experience much better than from the lights . they do look nice when all of the other lights are off, however
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10-06-2007, 02:34 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Yuma
Posts: 856
M.O.C. #1935
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Boy I sure hate to disagree with my good friend Doug, but we live in ours full time and the lights work just fine. I do not know if I am doing somthing differant then other people or I am just lucky. I do flush my gray and galley tank and back flush the black tank 2 - 3 times when I empty it.
Mel
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10-06-2007, 02:37 PM
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Seasoned Camper
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Pemberton
Posts: 99
M.O.C. #6226
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When they say full!!! There full! Any other time your memory will serve you best!
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10-06-2007, 02:41 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Cedar Rapids
Posts: 4,876
M.O.C. #1944
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Mel,
I think you must be the exception. I've had several RVs over the past 31 years and not one had indicator lights that worked properly. Sure, they all lit, but the black and grey water lights never indicated properly. Even had a new black water tank installed in January. At that time the black water indicator light indicated empty. But after using, it has always indicated full. Now, you can't say I'm not flushing properly or flushing enough because I do exactly as I'm supposed to. I empty the black water tank then back flush the black water tank with the grey water. Then dump the whole works. After that I back flush my black water tank using a Flush King (I don't have a built-in back flush setup) until I see nothing but clear water coming out. Usually takes three times.
This discussion comes up quite frequently because of the newcomers and I believe that it is important to share our experiences with them.
Orv
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10-06-2007, 02:52 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Grand Blanc
Posts: 2,508
M.O.C. #5965
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ctrocks - The lights have never worked properly for any of the RVs that we have had. Even after backflushing the black water tank several times after emptying, they usually will show at least 1/3 to 2/3 full and then full soon thereafter. Knowing this, just go on and enjoy your new rig. - Jim
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10-06-2007, 03:00 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: merced
Posts: 983
M.O.C. #6171
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Well I've been RVing for 20 and seldom has the Black worked corretly for very long.
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10-06-2007, 03:08 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: No Telling
Posts: 207
M.O.C. #7430
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All my lights on the guage, light...that's about it.
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10-06-2007, 04:41 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Fort Myers
Posts: 5,933
M.O.C. #4282
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My method is my wife taking a shower and suddenly yelling at me, "Dave! The gray tank is full!" as the water starts backing up slightly into the tub... Also, "Dave, the galley tank is full" is another reliable signal. As far as the black tank goes, I can tell from the sound of water running down the toilet when it's time to dump and flush. Are we supposed to be using those panel lights???
BTW, my fresh water lights work like a champ - the only time I touch that panel.
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10-06-2007, 08:37 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Morgan City
Posts: 642
M.O.C. #2773
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My tank lights have always worked....BUT THEY ALWAYS LIE
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10-07-2007, 02:32 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: North Ridgeville
Posts: 20,229
M.O.C. #2839
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This is our 5th rv and this is the ONLY one were the indicators lights do not work properly. They are something that is there..they are supposed to work.. we pay for them..but they rarely work and most of us do not seem to care.. It irritates the h*** out of me that something that should work does not and no one can seem to fix it.
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10-07-2007, 03:48 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: _
Posts: 5,238
M.O.C. #6337
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Manufacturers could sure save a lot of $$, don't bother with the silly things, cept, maybe that fresh water one, that seems to work.
Our old rig had fresh water tank in place where we could see it from an outside compartment! Goodness we miss that! Then we would not even need the fresh water one.
Entire thing is stupid really, manufacturers put them on, EVEN they admit during plant tours they won't work after the first use, they spend $$ and time installing. Majority of us out here never use them, know they work maybe 1 % of the time.
Why are we doing this???
Even coaches that cost a bunch more than our Montana/Keystone lines, use these silly stupid nonworking frustrating pieces of sh#.
Next coach, I want to be able to see my fresh water tank from the an outside compartment, and/or, want those sensors that attach from outside of tank, NOT inside them.
Gosh, this is not rocket science is it?? Give us something that truly works, or forget it. HELLO OUT THERE!!!!
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10-07-2007, 04:07 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Yuma
Posts: 856
M.O.C. #1935
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This is the first RV that we have had that the tank indicators seem to work on a steady bases. We do have problems with the black tank if I don't back flush till it is clean.
Mel
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10-07-2007, 05:46 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Port Orchard
Posts: 1,153
M.O.C. #3403
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So far so good, all the sensor lights are working properly.
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10-07-2007, 07:57 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Merlin
Posts: 668
M.O.C. #7368
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Now here is an Idea (mod for OZZ). When you push the button for the Gray/Black/Galley/Fresh water tank, it turns on a lazer/diode light behind the tank. You look into a peephole (like in stick houses) and through the use of fiber optoics, see exactly how full the tank is. Sounds simple and effective. Now if I only knew how to patent it.
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10-07-2007, 08:01 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: North Ridgeville
Posts: 20,229
M.O.C. #2839
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I really do not think that there is anything wrong with the sensor system itself..I think the problem is with the installation procedure and the folks that install them.
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10-07-2007, 08:58 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: _
Posts: 5,238
M.O.C. #6337
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Rich,
Anytime you have sensors IN the tank that are gonna get gunked up, seems to me there is a weakness in the entire situation.
Sensors that are on the OUTSIDE of the tanks, like the aftermarket ones, cannot get debris all over then, seems to my ole leaky logic brain (do I even have one anymore??) that if they cannot get gunked up, they will work longer
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