Journey with Confidence RV GPS App RV Trip Planner RV LIFE Campground Reviews RV Maintenance Take a Speed Test Free 7 Day Trial ×
 

Go Back   Montana Owners Club - Keystone Montana 5th Wheel Forum > GENERAL DISCUSSIONS > Brrr it's cold outside! Winter Camping
Click Here to Login

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
Old 06-08-2013, 04:19 PM   #1
dllapell
New Member
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Knoxville
Posts: 9
M.O.C. #12472
Having to defrost fridge often

I am having to defrost the coils in our double fridge every weekend it seems. Is this normal? We keep in on 50 amp service year round. What is my problem? We took it in for service at our Keystone dealer, but we still have the problem. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
 
dllapell is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-08-2013, 05:02 PM   #2
DQDick
Site Team
 
DQDick's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Wilsey
Posts: 18,799
M.O.C. #11455
Can you tell us what type of refrigerator you have. From time to time folks have had problems with Norcold's seals leaking outside air into the unit. In answer to your question of is this normal, no it isn't. We have a Norcold four door and we full time. We defrost a couple of times a year, even when we're in Kansas in the summer with all this years storms and humidity.
__________________
Dick, Joyce, Diego, Picatso and Gustav
2017 3720 RL, and 2013 HC 343RL
Pullrite Hitch, IS, Disk Brakes, 3rd AC, Winegard Traveler, Bathroom door mod, Dometic 320, couch for desk swap, replaced chairs, sun screens, added awnings, etc.
DQDick is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-08-2013, 06:40 PM   #3
Rondo
Site Team
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Omaha
Posts: 6,750
M.O.C. #7560
Duayne-- Where are you located--around the Knoxville area all the time or somewhere else? Are you set up permanently on a site year round? Besides the gasket like Dick had posted you may have a problem with the thermo on the unit. It may need to be slide one way or the other but since the weather back there has been humid I'd put my money on the gasket leak problem. It could be the alignment of the door also. They do come out of alignment and can be adjusted with the door hinge screws. Here's another possibility-- It could be the latch on the door not closing tight enough also!
Rondo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-08-2013, 08:09 PM   #4
bigskyjimmy
Montana Master
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Washington Coast
Posts: 2,688
M.O.C. #10696
Yes something is wrong, We are fulltimers and we never defrost our fridge it does automatic every week or so,the Freezer on the other hand I have to defrost every couple of months I do it pretty quick with a hair dryer I turn off the power to the fridge set the hair dryer on WARM to speed up the defrost and wipe it out and good to go another couple of months
__________________
[
bigskyjimmy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-09-2013, 02:44 AM   #5
1retired06
Montana Master
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Lake Gaston
Posts: 8,773
M.O.C. #12156
Agree, not right. With our previous montanas, Dometic, had to be defrosted on a regular basis. With the Norcold, we set up in Florida 5 months each winter, and never have to defrost.
__________________
Mike and Lorraine
2002 3655 FL, 2005 3650RK
2010 3665RE, 2015 3910FB
F350 crew cab dually 6.7
1retired06 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-09-2013, 01:03 PM   #6
dllapell
New Member
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Knoxville
Posts: 9
M.O.C. #12472
We have a Norcold four door. The door chime doesn't go off that the door is open. I haven't felt any cold air leaking. We live in Knoxville, but keep the Big Sky on Norris Lake when not traveling. I have never had any problem with build up in freezer, but coils in fridge keep frosting over. When I opened the right door yesterday, water dripped from the inside top, near the door. The right side coils are already frosted over from being unopened for 2 weeks. Does that mean it's the seals? If so, is that something we can fix ourselves, or do we need to take it back to Northgate for service?
dllapell is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-09-2013, 02:29 PM   #7
bigskyjimmy
Montana Master
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Washington Coast
Posts: 2,688
M.O.C. #10696
My fins frost on the right too but like I said it defrost's itself every week or so sometimes 2 weeks and also I also get condensation on the top right ceiling but the fridge works great so I think that is normal?? ,I get frost in the freezer because we are opening and closing it all the time and also I heard that ice cubes left in the plastic trays contributes to frost so now after the ice freezes I put the cubes in a Ziplock bag and that has kept down the frost
__________________
[
bigskyjimmy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-09-2013, 03:12 PM   #8
dllapell
New Member
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Knoxville
Posts: 9
M.O.C. #12472
Is there a setting that automatically sets it to defrost? Also, we are still learning all about this website. We think is awesome! I just found that I posted it under Winter Camping somehow. Do I need to move it to the correct forum? If so, how? And how do I post pictures?
dllapell is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-09-2013, 05:20 PM   #9
bigskyjimmy
Montana Master
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Washington Coast
Posts: 2,688
M.O.C. #10696
No automatic"setting" that I am aware of it just does it ,as far as picture posting I just started doing that myself and you have to use Photobucket or similar and Then you are off and running there is a how to post pics on this website and Other Senior members on the forum that can walk you through it
__________________
[
bigskyjimmy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-09-2013, 07:30 PM   #10
Montana_9856
Montana Master
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Berkshire
Posts: 586
M.O.C. #9856
Quote:
quote:Originally posted by dllapell
... Do I need to move it to the correct forum? If so, how? ...
This post probably better belongs in the "GENERAL DISCUSSIONS / General Discussions about our Montanas" portion of the forum. To move it, go to your first post. As the author, you will see an icon of a piece of paper and pencil. If you hover the cursor over it, you will see it says "Edit Topic". Click on it and you will be in edit mode. Then you can change the "Forum" to something more appropriate.

Quote:
quote:
...And how do I post pictures?....
Here is a link to several helpful postings related to posting images or pictures.
http://www.montanaowners.com/forums/...ad.php?t=31662
Montana_9856 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-10-2013, 02:54 AM   #11
1retired06
Montana Master
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Lake Gaston
Posts: 8,773
M.O.C. #12156
Quote:
quote:Originally posted by dllapell

We have a Norcold four door. The door chime doesn't go off that the door is open. I haven't felt any cold air leaking. We live in Knoxville, but keep the Big Sky on Norris Lake when not traveling. I have never had any problem with build up in freezer, but coils in fridge keep frosting over. When I opened the right door yesterday, water dripped from the inside top, near the door. The right side coils are already frosted over from being unopened for 2 weeks. Does that mean it's the seals? If so, is that something we can fix ourselves, or do we need to take it back to Northgate for service?
On a previous thread, I mentioned that I had put rubber window insulation strips on the frig side of the door for better sealing. The reason I did that was because of the exact same symptoms you describe. After the install (home depot product), problems went away. The open door alarm would often kick in after travel, and even sometimes when walking around the fiver, and it took care of that as well.
__________________
Mike and Lorraine
2002 3655 FL, 2005 3650RK
2010 3665RE, 2015 3910FB
F350 crew cab dually 6.7
1retired06 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-25-2013, 11:32 AM   #12
dllapell
New Member
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Knoxville
Posts: 9
M.O.C. #12472
Well, I have done done it now! Had to defrost coils in fridge again today. They were heavily frosted this time as it has set since July 21. Just as I have done every time, I did it as follows:
Turned fridge off.
Took the shelf bumpers off each side so that I would be able to slide tray out to dump water.
Set a plastic container on top shelf to catch the ice as I bring it off coils.
The ice is always a lot thicker on the coils on the right side, so I start on the left.
My left hand is under the ice.
One by one I heat the ice with a hair dryer until I can pull it off.
If it doesn't come off in one piece, I pull top half off before starting to the next coil.
I worked my way all the way over to the final 3 coils.
Had to spend a little extra time it seemed because ice was over to the wall at the top.
Once I got those off, I dumped what little water was in the tray.
Screwed the shelf bumpers back in.
Wiped the fridge out and closed the doors.
After I turned it back on, set the mode to AC. Alarm goes off.
Duayne is working outside, so I think he's hit the power cord. I have him check the cord, he said all is fine.
I try it again, Alarm. Dang it! So I go check all the connections myself.
Try it again. Alarm.
Double Dang it! Now I have to get Duayne to stop what he is working on, take his boots off, come inside. Not pretty.....
He turns it on. Alarm. Goes back outside, turns on LP, lights the stove to bring in LP thru line. Tries it again on LP mode. Alarm.
Giving us the code L1op.
Also notices light in fridge won't come on.
Please help us. What do we do? Leaving out Thursday.
dllapell is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-25-2013, 11:33 AM   #13
dllapell
New Member
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Knoxville
Posts: 9
M.O.C. #12472
What is the proper way to defrost the coils?
dllapell is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-25-2013, 11:43 AM   #14
Carl n Susan
Site Team
 
Carl n Susan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Carmichael - CA
Posts: 7,359
M.O.C. #4831
Here are two postings with suggestions on how to reset the L1op error code. Good luck!!!!

http://www.montanaowners.com/forums/...archTerms=L1op
http://www.montanaowners.com/forums/showthread.php?t=43635&SearchTerms=L1op
__________________
Carl (n Susan)
There is more to life than fuel mileage.
2012 Montana 3700RL Big Sky Package towed by a 2015 Ford F350 6.7L PSD 4WD CC LWB

Carl n Susan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-25-2013, 12:01 PM   #15
dllapell
New Member
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Knoxville
Posts: 9
M.O.C. #12472
Thank you Carl n Susan! We will try it! What an incredible picture you have by the way.
dllapell is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-25-2013, 12:34 PM   #16
Phil P
Montana Master
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Okeechobee
Posts: 2,150
M.O.C. #11206
Hi

Using a dollar bill stick it between the door seal and the door jamb where the seal touches. Close the door. If the dollar bill is easy to pull out then you’re not sealing. Continue doing this all the way around each door.

I use this on all the doors on the trailer and adjust any seal that doesn’t take a firm grip on the dollar.



Phil P
__________________
2009 Montana 3665RE
2009 Duramax 3500 DRW quad cab
personal web page https://www.sallyscoffees.com
If you get a page not available then remove the "s" after HTTP
Phil P is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-25-2013, 12:37 PM   #17
dllapell
New Member
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Knoxville
Posts: 9
M.O.C. #12472
Great idea Phil. Thanks.
dllapell is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-25-2013, 02:22 PM   #18
oldelmer1
Montana Master
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: North East
Posts: 1,050
M.O.C. #10758
If you find that the dollar bill test fails, as I did, went to Home depot and bought some 3/16" thick felt window seal. I wanted 3/4 inch wide, but could only find 1.25 inch wide. I cut this down to 3/4" wide with a pair of scissors. Slipped this behind the weatherstrip all the way around the fridge.

Dollar bill tested again and what a difference.
oldelmer1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Did you know this was on your fridge? dieselguy Additions & Improvements 17 08-31-2011 07:11 AM
Defrost frigerator rich6506547 It's a Dirty Job but Someone has to do it! 10 08-19-2010 04:11 AM
Fridge went out rvfirefighter General Discussions about our Montanas 15 10-20-2009 03:12 PM
Bar Fridge 1Happycamper Additions & Improvements 4 07-29-2007 02:13 AM
Fridge not going to ac JimnJulie Repairs & Service 5 07-09-2007 11:40 AM

» Featured Campgrounds

Reviews provided by

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.3
Disclaimer:

This website is not affiliated with or endorsed by Montana RV, Keystone RV Company or any of its affiliates. This is an independent, unofficial site.


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 07:04 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.9
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.