Go Back   Montana Owners Club - Keystone Montana 5th Wheel Forum > MOC on M.A.R.S. > Maintenance
Click Here to Login

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
 
Old 10-24-2017, 03:44 AM   #1
Hondo65
New Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: Brockport
Posts: 5
M.O.C. #20694
Winterizing Wet vs. Dry Opinions!

Just curious as to everyone's opinion on winterizing with RV antifreeze vs. air pressure. I realize that you still need to protect the P traps with antifreeze but seems easier to blow all the lines clear. I am definitely interested in hearing the pros / cons.

Thanks
Hondo
Hondo65 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-24-2017, 07:44 AM   #2
mlh
Montana Master
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Salem
Posts: 3,374
M.O.C. #2283
It makes no difference. The end result if done even close to proper is exactly the same. I blow mine out because I have an air compressor.
Lynwood
mlh is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-24-2017, 09:18 AM   #3
DQDick
Montana Master
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Council Grove
Posts: 13,852
M.O.C. #11455
Besides the P traps, don't forget the washing machine if you have one.
DQDick is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-24-2017, 09:26 AM   #4
kdeiss
Montana Master
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Englewood
Posts: 2,985
M.O.C. #164
Many years ago I did the blowout on a SOB. Had to replace a Shower Faucet because a little water set in an elbow! Also think the Pink Stuff keeps the faucet washers wet!
So since then always use RV Antifreeze only takes less then 2 Gal for my 2955RL No Washer!
kdeiss is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-24-2017, 09:34 AM   #5
1retired06
Montana Master
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Lake Gaston
Posts: 6,357
M.O.C. #12156
Depends on temps anticipated. If zero temps are going to happen, I would be more comfortable going the antifreeze route
__________________
Mike and Lorraine
2002 3655 FL, 2005 3650RK
2010 3665RE, 2015 3910FB
F350 crew cab dually 6.7
1retired06 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-24-2017, 09:50 AM   #6
TLightning
Montana Master
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Kville
Posts: 2,595
M.O.C. #7871
I use 60 watt light bulbs with pink stuff in the P traps.
TLightning is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-24-2017, 11:14 AM   #7
HiPalm
New Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: Radcliff
Posts: 3
M.O.C. #19643
I've always done air, saves having to flush the lines in spring
HiPalm is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-24-2017, 11:46 AM   #8
scottz
Montana Fan
 
scottz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: Colorado Rocky Mountains
Posts: 240
M.O.C. #19755
I do both. Blow the water out then fill with anti-freeze; probably overkill; but never had a problem.
__________________
Scott, Alta & Kodiak
2017 Montana 3160RL, Legacy Edition, Full Body Paint, Onan 5.5Kw
2014 Ford F350 6.7 PSD
scottz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-24-2017, 08:42 PM   #9
baybum10
Seasoned Camper
 
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: Little Egg Harbor
Posts: 57
M.O.C. #15866
I do both. Doesn't take much longer and two gallons of anti freeze is cheap insurance.
__________________
2014 High Country 318RE
2012 F250 6.7 long bed with B&W Hitch
baybum10 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-24-2017, 10:05 PM   #10
Theunz
Established Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Catoosa
Posts: 22
M.O.C. #18384
Years ago when I got my first trailer I tried the air system, never again. The next spring I replaced almost all of the copper water line! I couldn't believe all the dips and valleys that held water. Since they went to plastic lines it's a much smother run, but I'm not taking any chances. Like scottz I do both, only about six bucks and ten minutes. Ever change out a toilet valve? Not fun.
Theunz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-25-2017, 07:51 AM   #11
The Bone
Montana Fan
 
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Livermore
Posts: 105
M.O.C. #17521
I live in Norcal and blow the lines out then put in the pink stuff. When I am ready to go i hook up a hose and put the pink stuff back in the bottle for next year. Only use it 2 times than get some new. It never gets down to zero but its not uncommon to get to the low 20's
The Bone is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-29-2017, 06:35 AM   #12
Chasnracin
Montana Fan
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Pittsburgh
Posts: 206
M.O.C. #12394
Like a few others have said, I do both. We live in a colder climate, so that combined with how much we paid for this rig, it’s worth my 1hr of time to protect it as best I can. I’d rather spend the 1hr up front than take the chance to spend multiple hours and $$$ next spring when I found out a little water settled in a line, valve or faucet. Just my $.02. That and $5 will get you a Starbucks coffee.
Chasnracin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-29-2017, 09:15 AM   #13
mhs4771
Montana Master
 
mhs4771's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Sebring
Posts: 2,034
M.O.C. #9969
We put a different spin on the issue. We don't winterize the RV as we take it South, but what we do is winterize the House in Western NY. Blow all the water lines out, put the pink cool aid in the traps, toilets, and washer, call the electric company and have the power turned off. Been doing that for 6 years now with no issues and don't pay to heat an empty house.
__________________
Michelle & Ann
2011 Chevy LT 3500HD DRW 4X4 Extended Cab w/Duramax/Allison, Formally 2010 Montana 2955RL, Now Loaded 2016 SOB, Mor/ryde IS, Disc Brakes & Pin Box, Comfort Ride Hitch, GY G114 17.5 Tires.
mhs4771 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-29-2017, 10:08 AM   #14
Md.FireFighter 3791RD
Established Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2017
Location: WESTMINSTER
Posts: 31
M.O.C. #20081
Send a message via AIM to Md.FireFighter 3791RD Send a message via MSN to Md.FireFighter 3791RD Send a message via Yahoo to Md.FireFighter 3791RD
I also do both.3 gallons of the pink stuff cheap at Walmart.
Md.FireFighter 3791RD is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-29-2017, 10:08 AM   #15
jfaberna
Montana Master
 
jfaberna's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Holly Springs, NC
Posts: 807
M.O.C. #13909
Since Keystone states both as options, they think that done right, blowing out the lines works even in cold states. My dealer uses the blow out method. Since I pull my RV out in January, I have to winterize multiple times, so antifreeze cost is a real consideration.
__________________
Jim & Martha Abernathy
2014 Montana 3402RL Level UP, G614's, TST 507, Renergy 100W solar
2014 Ram 3500 Laramie® 4x2 diesel dually crew-cab 3.73 axle, Reese R20
jfaberna is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-29-2017, 10:19 AM   #16
tspoon
Montana Fan
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: holland patent
Posts: 143
M.O.C. #8973
I do both plus remove and empty p traps. I also cut out pipe going to washer hookups.(removed T and put in elbow). One gallon is all I need.
PS: don't wait to long to buy the pink stuff.Stores sell out and whoever has some raises their price.
tspoon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-29-2017, 10:21 AM   #17
tspoon
Montana Fan
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: holland patent
Posts: 143
M.O.C. #8973
Don't forget to remove batts from remotes and fire alarm.(you wouldn't hear the alarm if it did go off).
tspoon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-29-2017, 04:52 PM   #18
dieselguy
Montana Master
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Haysville
Posts: 3,161
M.O.C. #3085
I use air ... if you do it right, there will be no worries. Yes there will always be a little water left over in the lines here and there, but not the entire diameter of the water lines. The old copper lines were an issue, but today's plastic or PEX lines are very forgiving. If you blow thru all faucets, shower heads, stool, fresh water fill line, black tank rinse line, and outside faucets ... there will be no water in those to freeze. I do use about a quart of "pink stuff" in each P-Trap.
dieselguy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-29-2017, 09:57 PM   #19
CORattler
Montana Master
 
CORattler's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Colorado Springs
Posts: 3,335
M.O.C. #10496
I use the air method only. I do fill P traps with pink RV antifreeze.
I also blow out the lines to the washer connection even though I don't have a washer installed. I also pour pink RV antifreeze down the washer connection drain pipe. Never had a problem in all the years I've owned a RV. It does go to sub zero temperatures here occasionally.
__________________
2010 3150RL
LevelUp, Dual 6 volt batteries, Progressive Industries EMS HW50C, Honda EU2000i Generator, Bridgestone Duravis R250 tires, Torklift Glowstep Revolution Stairs, LED Tail lights
2015 RAM 3500 Laramie SRW LB CC Cummins 6.7L Aisin Trans B&W RVK3600
CORattler is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-30-2017, 09:47 AM   #20
Eagleback
Montana Fan
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Naples
Posts: 448
M.O.C. #15731
Quote:
Originally Posted by baybum10 View Post
I do both. Doesn't take much longer and two gallons of anti freeze is cheap insurance.

Same here when we were in michigan.
Eagleback is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.3

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 08:51 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.9
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.