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05-10-2016, 02:21 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: owen sound
Posts: 491
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Yup silicone works great and there is no risk of cracking the plastic fender skirt from over tightening and no risk of long term stress leading to plastic failing.
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05-12-2016, 10:42 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Fall Creek
Posts: 1,329
M.O.C. #3699
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Spend a couple of dollars and purchased some of the speed nuts and placed them on all of the fender screws, really feels good to be nice and tight. I think I may just apply some silicone too. I am sure glad that I am not the only one with loose fenders!
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2015 Montana 3440RL Legacy Edition, G614's, Pressure Pro TPMS, Dish Tailgaters
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05-16-2016, 06:41 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: Arlington
Posts: 1,522
M.O.C. #18081
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Just got back from Yellowstone yesterday with the same issues. I am fortunate that I noticed the issue when I stopped to stretch and look over the rig since this was the first trip over a couple of hundred miles. I lost one screw on each side and two more were loose on each side. Lucky and happy I did not lose the parts on I-90. I was going to pickup some machines screws and nylon lock nuts until I stumbled upon this thread. The dealer is sending me new screws and I will pickup the spring nuts at local home improvement center and use a dab or two of silicone as well. Thanks MOC for the perfect timing tips.
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2015 Volvo VNL780 D13, iShift, 32k ET air hitch, Idle Free LiFePO4 APU
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05-17-2016, 07:39 AM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Livingston
Posts: 350
M.O.C. #12009
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Quote:
quote:Originally posted by bncinwv
Got to Lowes and in the specialty hardware drawers in the hardware aisle they have speed nuts or slip nuts in packages. Put these on the back of the screws inside of the fenders and your problems are solved!
Here is what they look like:
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Great ideq
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08-07-2016, 12:26 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: Auburn
Posts: 879
M.O.C. #18474
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Our new Monty was delivered with three missing screws. Obviously stripped out when installed. Our dealer had a piece of 5/8" wide, 2mm thick stock aluminum and shot the screws through the aluminum, then cut between the screw holes so that you would have about an inch long piece of aluminum with a screw hole in it. Then put the aluminum "tabs" on the back side of the fender skirt and then tightened. So far I've had to do four more. Simple and effective.
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08-08-2016, 05:01 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Mesa az
Posts: 2,952
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Careful when tightening the screws/bolts. On my Mountaineer the indentation where the bolts go does not fit up flush with the body. So as you tighten then, it presses the fender down to the body and eventually cracks. At least it did on mine. I used some washers to shim it up so it could be tight without stressing the fender.
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08-09-2016, 12:04 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Ione
Posts: 582
M.O.C. #11371
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Went to Home Depot today, Speed Nut $.68 ea. One per bag.
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08-12-2016, 12:29 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Eugene
Posts: 1,053
M.O.C. #5091
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Do the speed nuts come in different sizes, and what size is required?
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08-12-2016, 02:47 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Salem
Posts: 7,550
M.O.C. #2283
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I think they are no. 8. I put machine screws with nuts but I think this is a better idea.
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08-15-2016, 06:09 AM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Glenrock
Posts: 155
M.O.C. #8761
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#8 on my rig.
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quote:Originally posted by bigred715
Do the speed nuts come in different sizes, and what size is required?
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08-15-2016, 05:14 PM
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Seasoned Camper
Join Date: Jul 2016
Location: new caney
Posts: 98
M.O.C. #18819
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I used stainless steel bolts with stainless steel flat washers on front and back with stainless steel lock washers.No more problems ever.
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08-18-2016, 03:50 AM
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Seasoned Camper
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Neville
Posts: 85
M.O.C. #13316
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I put finger nail polish on threads of screws. Screws have stayed tight.
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08-18-2016, 04:06 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: Stafford Springs
Posts: 524
M.O.C. #17256
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#8 speed nuts. you can get them at any hardware store and Home Depot.
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2014 Ford F-350 Lariat 6.7L PSD
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09-05-2016, 01:01 AM
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Seasoned Camper
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Livingston
Posts: 76
M.O.C. #10395
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I put Silicone on the treads, this removed the possibility of over- tightening and cracking stuff, and, now the're waterproof as well
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09-05-2016, 03:48 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Land O Lakes
Posts: 2,751
M.O.C. #7753
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PLIERS WITH SPEED NUTS!!! Use pliers to hold them if you use a drill, or buy band-aids..
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10-01-2016, 04:21 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: North Lake Tahoe
Posts: 639
M.O.C. #18510
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OK, here is the real fix you should do. On our first trip we saw the fender flapping in the wind. When we stopped the screw was not even there, so we grabbed one of the ones in the middle and replaced it. Then when I got to a hardware store, I drilled out the hole for a 10-32 machine screw, then using 1/4" washers, and used 10-32 "Nylock" nuts on the back side. They are the aircraft nuts with nylon in them, that won't let the screw loosen ever again. So I did it to all my fender screws. Total cost about $20 for bolts, washers, and aircraft, "Nylock" nuts
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10-02-2016, 07:08 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: STAYTON
Posts: 1,118
M.O.C. #18157
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Quote:
quote:Originally posted by vipermanden
OK, here is the real fix you should do. On our first trip we saw the fender flapping in the wind. When we stopped the screw was not even there, so we grabbed one of the ones in the middle and replaced it. Then when I got to a hardware store, I drilled out the hole for a 10-32 machine screw, then using 1/4" washers, and used 10-32 "Nylock" nuts on the back side. They are the aircraft nuts with nylon in them, that won't let the screw loosen ever again. So I did it to all my fender screws. Total cost about $20 for bolts, washers, and aircraft, "Nylock" nuts
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Did you buy stainless bolts or at least painted? If not won't they be a rusty mess in a few months?
Mark
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10-02-2016, 10:04 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: North Lake Tahoe
Posts: 639
M.O.C. #18510
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Yes of course I bought stainless steel 10-32 pan head Phillips machine screws, and st stl washers, and then I touched them up with the touch up paint they gave me. Always use st stl on projects that will be out doors.
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10-02-2016, 06:49 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Rancho Santa Margarita
Posts: 633
M.O.C. #13025
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I am not sure what I am doing wrong. I bought the speed nuts and when I tried to install them, I was unable to see most screws on back side of fender?
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Russ and Linda, So. California
2004 Chevy Silverado 2500 HD, D/A, SRW, SB
2005 2955RL, Pullrite Superglide 16K hitch. Bridgestone Duravis R500 tires. EZ Flex Equilizers with wet bolts.EMS HW50C, Disk brakes
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10-06-2016, 02:56 PM
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Established Member
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Temecula
Posts: 30
M.O.C. #15816
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Yep silicone worked for me too...
Quote:
quote:Originally posted by speedster100
Yup silicone works great and there is no risk of cracking the plastic fender skirt from over tightening and no risk of long term stress leading to plastic failing.
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