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Old 01-19-2018, 04:32 PM   #41
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I think somevRam owners sleep with their truck. I had 1, that was enough.
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Old 01-19-2018, 04:58 PM   #42
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We have 3 great trucks to choose from. Why did this haft to resort to brand bashing?
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Old 01-19-2018, 06:32 PM   #43
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We have 3 great trucks to choose from. Why did this haft to resort to brand bashing?
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So true. And each one will do the job equally well. But the mine is better than yours thing continues to raise its ugly head for some reason.
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Old 01-20-2018, 06:28 AM   #44
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THERE IS NO "g"in Cummins Engines. There is a reason Ram has used Cummins Engines for what? Almost 30 years, they work. I will never own a GM product, and Ford is playing leap frog with Ram on power. The new 6.7 with the aisan (sp) is a bullet proof combo in a Ram.
So you caught a typo error!!!

It s your preference I work on all of them and my preference is the truck that delivers the power to the road in a way that it is usable.

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Old 01-20-2018, 06:34 AM   #45
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I have had a number of Chevy trucks. Last one a 3/4 duramax. When going to a 350 SRW my salesperson who I have bought 3 vehicles from could not find a Chevy that would came with what i wanted, anywhere. She has a sister dealership that handles Ford. I found one close enough. Told her about it. She never called me back. I now have the Ford. Things i like about the Ford that Chevy does not offer, yet. 48 gallon fuel tank in CCLWB. Camera system. Waiting to see what i end up for MPG after break in. Yes, mileage matters to some. Range is very important to me. Trying to find a gas station pulling a 35 foot TT with a gasser on a trip can be stressful.

Thing I don't like-- it is much taller than my 2014 3/4 chevy. Some would say my legs are too short.

But that 360 view camera systen does make the truck smaller when trying to park it.
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Old 01-20-2018, 08:02 AM   #46
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I have had a number of Chevy trucks. Last one a 3/4 duramax. When going to a 350 SRW my salesperson who I have bought 3 vehicles from could not find a Chevy that would came with what i wanted, anywhere. She has a sister dealership that handles Ford. I found one close enough. Told her about it. She never called me back. I now have the Ford. Things i like about the Ford that Chevy does not offer, yet. 48 gallon fuel tank in CCLWB. Camera system. Waiting to see what i end up for MPG after break in. Yes, mileage matters to some. Range is very important to me. Trying to find a gas station pulling a 35 foot TT with a gasser on a trip can be stressful.

Thing I don't like-- it is much taller than my 2014 3/4 chevy. Some would say my legs are too short.

But that 360 view camera systen does make the truck smaller when trying to park it.
My neighbor, a GM salesman, says in 2019 GM will catch up to the 2017 Ford technology. My F350 saw mileage increase up to about 20,000 miles but that is a diesel. Range is more important to me when pulling than MPG so I had an aux tank put in. Sadly, finding one for a gasser is impossible and their MPG towing is not great. When pulling TTs long ago I filled at every Flying J I found ~ the RV lanes made things as easy as possible. Now I use truck lanes for diesel. I'm 5'11 and with my old hitch I used a step stool to work it. Now I use a short ladder as the 2nd step is required. Not sure if the new GM products are any lower, it seems they are all raising the bed. Not sure why as the running gear is no higher. Maybe a macho look for millennials?
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Old 01-21-2018, 05:53 PM   #47
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Had F350 2015 Ford with the 6.7 diesel and loved it. Now driving a 2017 platinum with the 6.7 and love it even more! Eventually we will be able put these trucks on remote and sit back and they will do the driving! LOL
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Old 01-21-2018, 06:57 PM   #48
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Had F350 2015 Ford with the 6.7 diesel and loved it. Now driving a 2017 platinum with the 6.7 and love it even more! Eventually we will be able put these trucks on remote and sit back and they will do the driving! LOL
Canít wait till we can leave the driving to the truck, NOT. Iím sure it will be a lot safer, NOT. Why heck its been over 50 years since I put a scratch on a vehicle but Iím sure a self driving vehicle will do much better. I do think some of this stuff is good, automated breaking, rear view cameras, lane departure warnings all can be helpful.
It would be nice when, if I get old to get in the back seat and tell my truck to take me to Union Pass Wy and wake me up when we get there. It could drive 24 hours a day stop for fuel on its own and in about 2 days we would be there. Not holding my breath.
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Old 01-22-2018, 05:06 AM   #49
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Canít wait till we can leave the driving to the truck, NOT. Iím sure it will be a lot safer, NOT. Why heck its been over 50 years since I put a scratch on a vehicle but Iím sure a self driving vehicle will do much better. I do think some of this stuff is good, automated breaking, rear view cameras, lane departure warnings all can be helpful.
It would be nice when, if I get old to get in the back seat and tell my truck to take me to Union Pass Wy and wake me up when we get there. It could drive 24 hours a day stop for fuel on its own and in about 2 days we would be there. Not holding my breath.
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I like that one Lynwood
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I agree 100% preference is the deciding factor.The Ford or Duramax will stand up to the Cummins any day.I don’t believe any one of the three is superior to the other.
When you look at the rods and pistons next to each other it's clear which one is superior. I guess you have not heard of the 6.0 ford engine and the lawsuit between Ford and international..Gm does not have the same tow capacity. Who put an aluminum head diesel in the market? No thanks, I'll stay with my Cummins..
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Old 02-10-2018, 01:13 PM   #52
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Hi

Sorry to burst your bubble but.

I have worked on the GM, Cat, Cummings, Mercedes and Isuzu diesel sense the early 70ís.

When compared to weight verses sizes and HP out put the Isuzu has always out classed the others and did not start using the glow plug until they turbo charged them and then like the Cummings the heater for start doesnít operate until the temperature gets down where heat is needed. The difference is Cummings uses a heater grid in the intake instead of glow plugs.

I worked on all of them in equipment from excavators to automobiles I have even worked on the 2 stroke GM 4-53 diesel in pickup trucks back in the 90ís.


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So which brand uses Isuzu besides Isuzu itself?
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Old 02-10-2018, 03:35 PM   #53
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Here in the south if you take a look around the camp ground you will see Chevy/Gmc leading the pack. Ford second followed by dodge. But hey as long as you get there safely.
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GM sure seams to be having good luck with its aluminum heads. Maybe GM knows more about designing Diesel engines than I do.
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When you look at the rods and pistons next to each other it's clear which one is superior. I guess you have not heard of the 6.0 ford engine and the lawsuit between Ford and international..Gm does not have the same tow capacity. Who put an aluminum head diesel in the market? No thanks, I'll stay with my Cummins..
Well, since the Cummins is a 6.7 liter SIX cylinder, and the GM and Ford are 6.6.liter and 6.7 liter EIGHT cylinder engines, I would expect the pistons and cylinders to be bigger, since 6.7 divided by 6 is 1.12 liters per cylinder, whereas 6.7 divided by 8 is 0.84 liters per cylinder, so I would expect each piston and cylinder to be about 1/3 larger/stronger on the Cummins.

Rated towing capacity is based on much, much more than engine torque; about 26 pages of criteria per SAE J2807, including such things as parking brake holding power on a grade.

The Aluminum heads on the Duramax have caused zero durability issues, including on competition engines in the 1500 hp and greater range.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but first check your facts.
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GM sure seams to be having good luck with its aluminum heads. Maybe GM knows more about designing Diesel engines than I do.
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It s an Isuze Japanese engine.. not the Generals..
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Well, since the Cummins is a 6.7 liter SIX cylinder, and the GM and Ford are 6.6.liter and 6.7 liter EIGHT cylinder engines, I would expect the pistons and cylinders to be bigger, since 6.7 divided by 6 is 1.12 liters per cylinder, whereas 6.7 divided by 8 is 0.84 liters per cylinder, so I would expect each piston and cylinder to be about 1/3 larger/stronger on the Cummins.

Rated towing capacity is based on much, much more than engine torque; about 26 pages of criteria per SAE J2807, including such things as parking brake holding power on a grade.

The Aluminum heads on the Duramax have caused zero durability issues, including on competition engines in the 1500 hp and greater range.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but first check your facts.
Not just the Pisons.. but the Rods as well.. I have seen them side by side.. Personally I believe the 6 is much easier to service.
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Isuzu was partly owned by GM when the Dmax was developed, I think 50%.
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Dad Love his Duramax...23 mpg on the hiway...
none of my Cummins did this well..
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We buy Fords because we live in Ford Country and if you have 20 friends 10 of them will have worked for or retired from Ford and get many PIN numbers to give out every year for Ford Discounts. We buy under the Ford Friends and family program which is a huge discount. If we lived in Chevy country or Dodge country we would be driving one of them.
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