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09-20-2006, 05:25 AM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Brandon
Posts: 347
M.O.C. #179
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How much will 2 Honda eu2000's run
For those of you who are running this set up can you tell me how much more they will run than the a/c? I need more power than the eu3000 but I want to stay quiet.
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09-20-2006, 05:27 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Forestville
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M.O.C. #496
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My 2000's when hooked in parrell run everything just as if I was hooked into 30amp shore power.
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09-20-2006, 05:39 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Silver Springs
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M.O.C. #2716
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Two of them should run just about anything you want. We just use one and can't run micro, a/c, and hot water tank at the same time but I am sure that with two of them it would. Not sure about two a/c's though.
Helen
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09-20-2006, 05:49 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Forestville
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M.O.C. #496
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No, you can't run two A/C's at the same time with two Honda 2000's.
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09-20-2006, 11:56 AM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Woodland
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M.O.C. #3890
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Helen,
Are you running ONE a/c? I didn't think that was possible with the 2000.
Bill
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09-20-2006, 03:18 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Marysville
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M.O.C. #2334
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You can run the A/C with two e2000's - gives the equivalent (run in parallel) of about 3600 watts.
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09-20-2006, 04:01 PM
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Montana Master
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Location: Machesney Park
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M.O.C. #798
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When operated in parallel they are 4000 watts, 26.6 amps full load.
Bill
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09-20-2006, 05:57 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Gardnerville
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M.O.C. #2165
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Bill, you got it right that it's 26.6 amps rated load, but that's 3200 watts. The surge capability is 4000 watts (a little over 33 amps). A little deceptive marketing, but it's still good for close to that 30 A shore power on a continuous basis.
Bob
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09-21-2006, 11:42 AM
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Montana Master
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Location: Manhattan
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M.O.C. #1846
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Are these ratings you are giving in econo mode (i.e. running full bore or at the 'idle as it can' setting)? I had mine running in the eco mode this past weekend and ran into a problem when the AC kicked on; killed both (overload) as it appears they were unable to spool up fast enough for the demand. First time with the new 5er on a hot day, never had any problem with the mountaineer but it had 13.5 AC, this one has 15 as I recall. (Hope that all made sense.)
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09-21-2006, 05:36 PM
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Montana Master
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Location: Gardnerville
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M.O.C. #2165
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Those ratings are for full speed operation. I've had some trouble with mine being able to handle the initial demand of the AC or my old microwave when the generator is idling (the econo mode). I solved part of the problem by replacing the microwave with a Panasonic Inverter microwave (the amount of current it uses depends on the heat setting...lower heat setting, less continuous current draw. Other microwaves always turn on at full power no matter what setting you choose, they just switch it on and off for different lengths of time to get different heat levels.)
You might be able to adjust the mixture so they can get up to speed without stalling, though.
Bob
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09-21-2006, 06:13 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Pasco
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M.O.C. #5972
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Are you saying that the two tandem honda could not take the 15KBTU firing up?
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09-21-2006, 06:26 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Fort Myers
Posts: 5,933
M.O.C. #4282
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2, 2000's in parallel should handle the compressor startup on a 15K A/C. My 3000ti Kipor hardly blinks at my 15K startup - and Kipor is a Honda "clone". Can't imagine 2, 2000's stumbling - unless they lose something in the parallel hookup...
I did shut down (overload) my 3000 when I started it up after a long trip - which cooled down my WH - then forgot to shut off the electric element, which started up full bore, when I fired up the Kipor. That was a drain, but OK, until I went inside and turned on my fireplace, THEN turned on the seperate electric heater in the fireplace. THAT shut it down - Had to shut it off, wait 30 seconds, then restart the Kipor. I turned off my electric element, and the Kipor ran for 15 hrs on a single tank of gas (3.5 gals). I absolutely love that Kipor 3000!
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09-22-2006, 04:44 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Manhattan
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M.O.C. #1846
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MaMalody: Yeap - that is what was happening. When the main AC turns on, it kills the generators (they are still running but no output, have to shut them off which effectively resets them)-- this is when I had them running in econo mode. If I have them both running full speed then they will handle the 15K AC and the Microwave no problem. I thought the AC's were the same between my old Mountaineer and my new unit but called the dealer and confirmed that my new unit is 15K while my trade was a 13.5. Live and learn
New unit not a Montana but have had such a good rapport here I don't want to leave!!!! Dealer I bought from sells both Montana and my unit; my unit a close cousin (I hope!!) (At least they said it was and support has been equally super so far!!).
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09-22-2006, 04:24 PM
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Montana Master
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Location: Cedar Rapids
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M.O.C. #1944
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Two Honda 2000s in parallel will run whatever you can run on 30 amp shore power. When we're connected to 30 amp shore power with the AC running, we have to shut off the AC so my wife can dry her hair. That's pretty normal.
Orv
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09-22-2006, 07:40 PM
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Montana Master
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Location: Fort Myers
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M.O.C. #4282
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I agree with Orv, Skypilot. Your 15K A/C should NOT be "overloading" your 4000 watt system. My Kipor reacts the same way. It will bog way down, finally throwing the "overload" switch, then going to idle as it disconnects power. You just have to shut them off, count to 30 (maybe not that long), then fire them back up, as you mentioned, to reset.
You must have something else running - maybe the water heater element - although even that did not overload my 3000 w/ A/C running. I'd check with someone on this issue. Maybe someone here. But I would re-emphasize that there is no way a 15K A/C kicking on and running should EVER overload 4000 w of gen power by itself, without considerable help from additional amperage pull from somewhere else.
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09-23-2006, 03:20 AM
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Montana Fan
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Location: Evans
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M.O.C. #4977
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I've got 2 2000eu's and they will run the AC on the 2980. One thing I did was change the harness from one unit to the other as I noticed that one would spool up a little quicker than the other. After I did this I no longer had to take them out of the eco mode to fire the AC. Al
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