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Old 03-03-2010, 05:23 AM   #1
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Tuner Problems

I have a 2006 Duramac diesel and using a supership tuner. I recently had to replace my turbo and was told that the chip had nothing to do with the problem. As anyone else out there experienced turbo problems while running a tuner.
 
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Old 03-03-2010, 12:22 PM   #2
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If you don't run with a boost gauge and overboost it, that could tear up the turbo. But a turbo is a mechanical piece of equipment, so could just fail on it's own too.
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Old 03-04-2010, 07:37 AM   #3
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do you have a pyrometer gauge for your truck .this will gauge the temp coming off the turbo.if you run temps higher than 1350 you can start to melt things .with the guage you can monitor how hot your engine is getting to lay off the throttle to cool the engine down .also before shutting your truck off the temp should be at least under 300 degrees before shutting down your truck.you can check on line for the pyrometer.
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Old 03-04-2010, 09:57 AM   #4
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Another note on turbo's just in case you didn't know, after a hard pull you should never shut the motor down, let it cool down and watch your pyrometer gauge when it goes down then shut it off.
If the oil dont get circulated and sits there it burns inside the turbo then when you start it up again the crystallized oil brakes off and will cause damage to your barrings in the turbo.
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Old 03-04-2010, 11:14 AM   #5
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best to never let the temp get above 1200, and then only for a few minutes. you can always gear down, back off and pull at below 1200.
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Tuner...geez, why? I figure if I'm clearing most East Coast mountains at 55 mph...do I need more juice?
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Tuner...geez, why? I figure if I'm clearing most East Coast mountains at 55 mph...do I need more juice?
This coming from someone that flys a plane without a motor? LOL!
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Old 03-05-2010, 04:16 PM   #8
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x 2 on Thors comment. I run an EDGE/ATTITUDE tuner in my 06 Duramax. Helps out with power, mileage, and power to EGT ratio. Well worth the investment. With the digital gauge/pyrometer, I just watch the EGT's. I make sure I do not exceed 1350 EGT and let it cool down below 300 before shutting down. I have 100,000 on the engine and have had the programmer in since 15,000 miles. Today marks my 10th trip coast to coast pulling my 13,000 pound Montana.
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Old 03-12-2010, 04:13 AM   #9
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Interesting thread 2gunpete,
I'm running a 2004 stock 6.6L Duramax. Thor mentions we need to cool down to 300 degrees before shutting down. Without gages how does one know or gustimate when it's OK to shut down so as not to hurt turbo? Also I can't hear my turbo like I could when I had a 7.3 Ford. I have considered buying a Diablo Predator just to watch performance. For those of us that want to remain stock what is the answer?
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Old 03-12-2010, 07:22 AM   #10
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I don't have/want a tuner...the LBZ has plenty of power as it comes from the factory. Re the cool down, if cruising the interstate, a cool down period is not needed, if pulling a hill, a let it idle for two minutes. In a previous life, we let our turbine helicopters idle for two minutes... that should do it for the Duramax also.
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Didn't you purchase and install the tuner for more performance. More performance sometimes costs more money. Your turbo probably did not fail as a direct effect from the added performance derived from the tuner. Maybe you just used the additional power more often without considering additional temperature effects. The new trucks have plenty of power stock. If you are stock your dealer will take care of you under warranty. Add a tuner and tell the dealer that you installed it to get better performance and they will laugh you off the lot on a warranty claim.
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Old 03-22-2010, 02:14 PM   #12
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Didn't you purchase and install the tuner for more performance. More performance sometimes costs more money. Your turbo probably did not fail as a direct effect from the added performance derived from the tuner. Maybe you just used the additional power more often without considering additional temperature effects. The new trucks have plenty of power stock. If you are stock your dealer will take care of you under warranty. Add a tuner and tell the dealer that you installed it to get better performance and they will laugh you off the lot on a warranty claim.
I have Edge A2 (Discontinued). It has 5 levels plus stock, which you can change on the fly, but only level 1 or 2 can be used pulling, and level 4 and 5 can't be used without upgrading the drive train. The thing I like the best is the transmission shifts better, and of course a little more power if you need it. I have it programmed for least amount of smoke. Also there is a feature to back down power if the EGT gets to high, which I have never seen.

Of all the mods I have done, exhaust brake and Aux Transmission have given me the most improvement for towing.
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Old 03-25-2010, 07:04 AM   #13
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someone asked how to tell when the engine is under 300 degrees .you can buy a pyorometer guage for your truck. this is a gauge that goes right after the turbo and tells the temp coming directly form the turbo.the way it works is you drill snd tap a hole in the exhaust manifold .the sensor goes into the exhaust manifod then the gauage to the cab of the truck as you tow you will see how hot your egine is getting.if the engine goes above 1300 degrees back off the throttle and the temp will come down .before shutting down the engine watch the gauge till it gets below 300 or the turbo will burn the oil on the turbo bearings.this is called cokeing the turbo.also when drilling the exhaust manifold you grease the drill and tap so the drill cutings and tap cuttings will stick to the drill and tap.when finished drilling and tapping run the engine to blow any cuttings that may have fallen.before installing the pyorometer.you dont have to worry about the chips because this is the exhaust manifold the chips get blown out the tail tipe and does not got in the engine.you can find this gauge on the internet
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