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06-25-2019, 07:23 PM
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Seasoned Camper
Join Date: Jun 2018
Location: LINDALE
Posts: 74
M.O.C. #21957
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Portable satellites
Greetings,
I have a portable satellite dish system called a Pathway II by Winegard. It may be on the blink so I will probably be replacing it soon with SOB. Do you all have any recommendations for particular brands that you have been happy with? I don't want to trash anyone's product in this public forum but I would sure like to know which portable dishes have been working well. We are on Dish and we have personal relationships with most of the help-desk personnel there (since we have to call them everyday almost!).
If you feel the need to trash someones product (like I do), PM me and I will do the same.
Thanks and safe travels,
Bev
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Max and Beverly Dow
2018 Montana 3730FL
3500 Dodge 4x4 Cummins Turbo Diesel
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06-25-2019, 08:10 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Catoosa
Posts: 780
M.O.C. #18384
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I wouldn't be to quick about trashing your receiver, as most problem are due to the internal wiring in the Montanas. Many previous discussions on this subject available by doing a search.
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06-25-2019, 08:19 PM
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Site Team
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Wilsey
Posts: 18,799
M.O.C. #11455
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Six years of full timing with two Winegard G2+ s and love them. The G2+ has it's own power supply and so you don't have to worry about getting enough power down the line from the Wally. I've been having issues that Dish admits are theirs and they are probably going to replace my Wally's with older model receivers that every Dish tech I've ever talked to say cause few problems compared to the Wallys. Any tailgater style reciever gets it's power from the receiver and so every connector and every length of cable will cause issues. That's why the fine print tells you you can only use a 25' cable and it must be a direct connection. With a antenna that produces it's own power you don't have those issues.
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Dick, Joyce, Diego, Picatso and Gustav
2017 3720 RL, and 2013 HC 343RL
Pullrite Hitch, IS, Disk Brakes, 3rd AC, Winegard Traveler, Bathroom door mod, Dometic 320, couch for desk swap, replaced chairs, sun screens, added awnings, etc.
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06-25-2019, 08:22 PM
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Site Team
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Oro Valley
Posts: 3,933
M.O.C. #20477
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If I was to buy a new Dish compatible antenna it would be a Winegard X2.
Easy way to check it is not your trailer wiring is to run a cable through the door or window directly to your receiver. If it works then, my recommendation is to run a direct cable. There are options to run it through a slide.
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Zack and Donna plus Millie and Ranger
2018 3160RL
"Life is too short to stay indoors, enjoy the ride!"
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06-26-2019, 05:50 AM
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Seasoned Camper
Join Date: Feb 2019
Location: HOSCHTON
Posts: 82
M.O.C. #23386
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I just replaced my coax with a better grade than what came with my antenna from DISH. Made a big difference.
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06-26-2019, 06:08 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: San Antonio
Posts: 1,298
M.O.C. #5165
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When I installed our Sat system in our Monty, I skipped all the internal wiring. I installed outside connectors and used the best RG cable--even bought crimp tools to make my own cables including connections to the antenna--Pathways X2. Everything works really well. I recommend the same approach by others.
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06-26-2019, 06:12 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Hixson
Posts: 3,436
M.O.C. #11397
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For 9 years full-timing I have used a Dish Network manual 1000.2 dish mounted to a surveyor's tripod using the mast kit from tv4rv.com. This is feeding a Hopper3 receiver and only takes about 10 minutes to set up again when we move. Why would I need an automatic dish?
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2018.5 Montana 3791RD
Full Timers 9/1/2010 through 1/16/2020.
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06-26-2019, 07:13 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Salem
Posts: 7,554
M.O.C. #2283
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I have 2 Dish Tailgaters that run off the Camper coax wire. One is mounted to the top of the camper the other is portable. On the portable one I use a 50 foot coax cable with no problem. It uses the camper cable that runs from near the back to the front of the camper. I tried to run a 100 coax cable but that was too long. If I run the 100 foot coax cable directly to my 211 box that isn’t too long and it works.
Lynwood
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06-26-2019, 09:15 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Lake Havasu City AZ.
Posts: 1,811
M.O.C. #10552
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I went with the Dish portable systems. One in the Roof and one portable just in case I got in a spot under trees.
After the incident with the bridge I had a Dish Traveler installed and now more problems. Yes very pricey but I just had to have it.
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Wayne and Ann Moore
2015 Ford F-350 King Ranch
Firestone air bags, bed saver.
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06-26-2019, 04:39 PM
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Seasoned Camper
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Myrtle Beach
Posts: 81
M.O.C. #21038
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We have a Pathways x2 antenna and 2 211 receivers... the Wallys would not work, so we returned them and bought the older 211's.....
We also ran a direct sat cable outlet thru the bedroom wall to connect that input to, because the Montana wiring did not work..
The connection for the living room cable is original and works...
we are pleased with the tv reception that we get from DISH
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06-27-2019, 01:22 AM
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Seasoned Camper
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: vine grove
Posts: 80
M.O.C. #13517
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Beverly
Greetings,
I have a portable satellite dish system called a Pathway II by Winegard. It may be on the blink so I will probably be replacing it soon with SOB. Do you all have any recommendations for particular brands that you have been happy with? I don't want to trash anyone's product in this public forum but I would sure like to know which portable dishes have been working well. We are on Dish and we have personal relationships with most of the help-desk personnel there (since we have to call them everyday almost!).
If you feel the need to trash someones product (like I do), PM me and I will do the same.
Thanks and safe travels,
Bev
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you might want to try this
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06-30-2019, 10:23 AM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Jul 2018
Location: Marion
Posts: 234
M.O.C. #22281
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Quote:
Originally Posted by WeBeFulltime
For 9 years full-timing I have used a Dish Network manual 1000.2 dish mounted to a surveyor's tripod using the mast kit from tv4rv.com. This is feeding a Hopper3 receiver and only takes about 10 minutes to set up again when we move. Why would I need an automatic dish?
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I still have my winegard pathwayx2 but it's at home sitting in my shop in a box. Even though it has 2 coax hookups I found it useless to use on 2 tv's. The receivers seemed to fight each other over which satellite to go to.
Went back to the dish 1000.2 mounted on a tripod and now have no problems with 211z in living room, 211z in bedroom, and a wally for my outside tv in the basement storage.
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2019 Montana High Country 384BR
2018 Ram cclb 4x4 6.7 cummins/aisin dually
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06-30-2019, 11:03 AM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Feb 2017
Location: North Bay Area
Posts: 351
M.O.C. #19469
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fish
I still have my winegard pathwayx2 but it's at home sitting in my shop in a box. Even though it has 2 coax hookups I found it useless to use on 2 tv's. The receivers seemed to fight each other over which satellite to go to.
Went back to the dish 1000.2 mounted on a tripod and now have no problems with 211z in living room, 211z in bedroom, and a wally for my outside tv in the basement storage.
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I have the Pathway X2 also, I really like it. But I'm thinking of making the change also for the same reason as you. Does the head on your 1000.2 have 3 cable hook ups?
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2000 F-350 swd crew cab long bed 7.3 power stroke transflow 77 gal fuel tank.
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07-01-2019, 03:13 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Jul 2018
Location: Marion
Posts: 234
M.O.C. #22281
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mel B.
I have the Pathway X2 also, I really like it. But I'm thinking of making the change also for the same reason as you. Does the head on your 1000.2 have 3 cable hook ups?
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Yes , 3.
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2019 Montana High Country 384BR
2018 Ram cclb 4x4 6.7 cummins/aisin dually
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07-03-2019, 02:17 PM
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Seasoned Camper
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Quincy
Posts: 71
M.O.C. #13543
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Dish Wally problems
I was using a Winegard satellite dish Model GM-1518 with 2 Dish Wallys up until last Feb and they were working fine. Put the rig away for a couple of months - when I went to use it in May, the Wallys would not hold sat lock. After many hours on the phone, finally got elevated to a tech that knew more than most who explained that Dish had "updated" the software on Wally and rendered them useless for portable dish use without additional software upgrade that - wait for it - the Wally will not complete on a portable dish. Gotcha! The tech told me to take the Wallys to Camping World where they could do the update for you. Well if you have a CW close, OK they will do it for minimum bench charge of $74 for 30 minutes. As I am not handy to CW, the tech agreed to send me 2 z211 units at no charge. They both work fine, but are older technology (ie larger, not so friendly interface, generate a ton of heat and will not work with a hard drive that is powered from the USB port).
So, it may not be your dish or cabling if you are using a Wally, but rather the Dish gotcha. If you want more info on what I did, see my post under the "Let Us Entertain You" thread.p { margin-bottom: 0.08in; }
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07-03-2019, 04:31 PM
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Site Team
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Oro Valley
Posts: 3,933
M.O.C. #20477
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rickbecker
I was using a Winegard satellite dish Model GM-1518 with 2 Dish Wallys up until last Feb and they were working fine. Put the rig away for a couple of months - when I went to use it in May, the Wallys would not hold sat lock. After many hours on the phone, finally got elevated to a tech that knew more than most who explained that Dish had "updated" the software on Wally and rendered them useless for portable dish use without additional software upgrade that - wait for it - the Wally will not complete on a portable dish. Gotcha! The tech told me to take the Wallys to Camping World where they could do the update for you. Well if you have a CW close, OK they will do it for minimum bench charge of $74 for 30 minutes. As I am not handy to CW, the tech agreed to send me 2 z211 units at no charge. They both work fine, but are older technology (ie larger, not so friendly interface, generate a ton of heat and will not work with a hard drive that is powered from the USB port).
So, it may not be your dish or cabling if you are using a Wally, but rather the Dish gotcha. If you want more info on what I did, see my post under the "Let Us Entertain You" thread.p { margin-bottom: 0.08in; }
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I would always take a 211 receiver over a Wally - they are more reliable.
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Zack and Donna plus Millie and Ranger
2018 3160RL
"Life is too short to stay indoors, enjoy the ride!"
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07-03-2019, 06:21 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Mesa az
Posts: 2,953
M.O.C. #5651
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I am pretty sure the z211 will use a USB connected disk for a DVR
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Tom and Gail
2013 Mountaineer 362
2012 Silverado 2500
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07-03-2019, 06:52 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: North Ridgeville
Posts: 20,229
M.O.C. #2839
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Like DQ Dick we have the winegard G2+. We picked it up at a CW near Winslow, AZ for a very good close out price 3 or 4 years ago. Very easy setup and works great.
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07-06-2019, 07:47 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Northville, NY
Posts: 807
M.O.C. #21158
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Had Direct TV at home so went with that till the antenna died. Went with dish as they were more "RV Friendly". Two Wally's and a King Tailgater. That turned out to me more hassle than it was worth with all the splitters in the Monty. If I have to run a cable out the window every time, why bother. Now we just stream Netflix and Prime and have cut the cable at home also. Most of the parks we now use have gone to third party Internet providers that provide plenty of band width and cost less than the monthly Dish charges.
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Jim B
2017 Lariat F-350 FX4, CC, SB, 6.7 PSD 4WD
2018 MONTY 3731FL, at our private winter site in GA
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07-06-2019, 10:32 PM
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Seasoned Camper
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: vine grove
Posts: 80
M.O.C. #13517
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I'm tired of Direct TV AT$T. Even though I have my dish on a dolly, the monthly payments are like congress... they lie! I want Free stuff, over 220 a month, I'm stupid for paying these people. Yeah, it's my fault. Just don't let my wife know!
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