Truck capacity - Page 2 - Montana Owners Club

mallardjusted · 09-25-2006, 06:47 PM

Al,

I'm not sure what specific model Dodge you have, but here is a link to 2003 payloads (towards the bottom of the page) ....

mallardjusted · 09-25-2006, 06:50 PM

whoops! here is the linK:

http://dodgeram.info/2003/load-tow/2500.html

Amps · 09-26-2006, 05:33 AM

I have the DODGE 2006 Truck Specification Guide.
For a 3500 DRW, Auto 4 speed long box, 4X4 with a 3.73 reads as follows:

GVWR 12,200lbs
Payload 4,830lbs
Base curb weight 7,369lbs
GCWR 21,000lbs
Max trailer weight 13,500

bigred715 · 09-26-2006, 11:12 AM

I have a new 07 3500 D/A ext. cab long bed 4x4 SRW. That is precisely why I went to the 3500 instead of the 2500HD. I have now an extra 480# because of the 9900# GVW. I pull a 2001 2880 Montana with a Onan generator up front and have a pin weight of 2160#. I've read of too many people on this forum that are pulling with 2500HD that are definately over on their pin weight. I traded my 2005HD gas with 6000 miles to finally get it right with the proper truck. I could have had a 06 2500HD D/A, granite blue ( I really wanted this color) but decidedI needed the 3500 instead. They only had 1 coming in during the extra $1000 program over Labor Day. Absolutely love the D/A and can't wait to pull for the first time.

Wrenchtraveller · 09-26-2006, 06:06 PM

Remember, it is as much option specific as model specific. A 2500HD Chev with a gas engine will weigh 500 pounds less than a truck with a Duramax so it will have 500 pounds more payload so this is an example where a 2500HD could have a larger payload than a 3500.

Another example is Ford's heavy new F250 with a 10000 pound GVWR. It outweighs a Chev 2500HD by 800 pounds. Bottom line, the Chev has a similar payload and if both trucks have the same combined rating, then the Chev is every bit as capable as the Ford.

hookman · 09-26-2006, 06:57 PM

My pay load is 2820lbs the hitch weight on a 2980 is 2465lbs and 1820 on a 2955 so are these trailers an over load

Wrenchtraveller · 09-27-2006, 02:51 AM

My 06 2955RL ends up with a 2600 pound Pinweight but I have the Splendide washer dryer up in the closet and a generator and tools down in the front compartment. Most of the Montana models have all the storage up front so the pin weight grows pretty fast when you pack them heavy like I do.

I am able to keep under my GVWR but I hav an 11200 GVWR rating. If I had a 9900 GVWR, I would have to leave a lot of stuff at home to stay within the specs.

Like many have said, even if you are over your GVWR and were in an accident, it would have to be proved that being overweight was the true cause of the accident and many MOCers know this and are very comfortable towing a little overweight. Most of us try to keep within our TV's specifications but the best thing we can all do is to drive carefully and never forget that big load behind us. Take care and all the best.

mallardjusted · 09-27-2006, 06:52 AM

hookman,

re:" My pay load is 2820lbs the hitch weight on a 2980 is 2465lbs and 1820 on a 2955 so are these trailers an over load" ...

For sure you would be over the rated payload on th 2980, maybe/maybe not or the 2955. Depends on how much weight you add. Add the weight of your hitch (170lbs?), the people in the TV, any tools and misc stuff in the truck, and the pin weight. Of course your pin weight goes up in ratio (maybe 15-20%?????) to what you add in your 5th wheel. Again, the truck can handle these .... you might tally the weight up and check with your insurance agent on whether there would be an issue?

BigAl52 · 09-27-2006, 05:51 PM

Matt
Thanks for the chart. Mine is a Quad cab HO Cummins Short Box. But the chart shows me at 6700 and when I weighed mine it was lighter than that and the scale here by where I work could be off. But gives me something to go by. None the less I am still comfortable with what I am towing my 2980 with. As far as the insurance goes it would still need to be proved and I think would be a stretch to do it. Al

WildBigBill · 09-28-2006, 06:26 AM

My GVWR is 13000 Front 5200 Rear 9000 Towing 26000.

WildBigBill · 09-28-2006, 08:15 AM

The 26000 is the GCWR and the tow rating is 18300.

WildBigBill · 09-28-2006, 08:20 AM

The 18300 is for a fifth wheel.

Cat320 · 09-30-2006, 08:11 AM

The literature the dealers and manufacturers publish is virtually worthless when it comes to cargo capacity. GM likes to say that the 2500HD series can take pin weights not to exceed 3000. From that you would 'assume' that anything under that would be fine. However, there is no 2500HD with the D/A that can take anywhere near that much weight. The D/A weighs 700 more than the 6.0L gasser, so the gasser can take the pin weight, but is limited to 16000 GCWR. The D/A can't take the pin weight but has a GCWR of 22000. Bottom line: The gasser can carry the weight, but can't tow anything; the D/A can't carry the weight, but can tow anything. Go figure.

hookman · 09-30-2006, 02:42 PM

Yes they sure like to feed you a line. I was told that my truck could pull a 13000lbs. and still have room for stuff in the truck

exav8tr · 10-01-2006, 01:27 PM

Hi, Am new to this RV thing. Have a 2006 3400RL and the dealer sold me a 2005 Chevy 2500 HD with the Duramax/Allison Combo. It is a crew cab and short bed. They will be installing a slider hitch before I pick it up. I am a little concerned that the operating handbook lists a max trailer weight of 12,000lbs, however, the dealer (Not GM) showed me an article from "The Diesel page.com that there was a mid year increase in the max trailer weight for fifth wheels and goose neck trailers increasing the weight to 16,000 lbs. Is anyone out there familiar with this change and, if so, how do I get something from GM so I can feel completely confortable being legal......

Cat320 · 10-01-2006, 02:22 PM

pparamore...sounds like a typical dealer...does not have a clue about trailers/towing or much else. The 12000 you are talking about is for bumper hitch towing. According to the manual, your max 5th wheel tow rating for an 05 D/A, cc, sb is 15300. Although there are lots of good folks towing with a vehicle similar to yours, with a 3400 you will most likely exceed the truck's cargo capacity when you add the pin weight, hitch weight, passengers, cargo, tools, etc. To find what your truck will really carry, check the sticker on the left rear door or pillar of the drivers side of your truck. The sticker, entitled "Tire and Loading Information," will have a section that says, "The combined weight of cargo and occupants should never exceed ____ pounds." That's all you can carry and stay within GVWR.

exav8tr · 10-02-2006, 03:03 PM

Bert and Betty, Thank you for the quick response. Although I am not from Missouri, I need to see in writing the max trailer weight. Could you enlighten me where to find that? Hopefully it is something from GM. I have figured max weights and I am 30 lbs under the GVWR, Whew ! Thank God for that!!!! By the way, my mother was born in Ft Smith. 1919....

Cat320 · 10-02-2006, 03:11 PM

pparamore...here you go: http://www.chevrolet.com/silveradocl...pecifications/

Also, I sent you a PM yesterday. Check the top of the screen when you log on.

exav8tr · 10-02-2006, 07:25 PM

Bert, Thanks for the info and the website, Unfortunately the website is for a 2007 2500 and I have a 2005. Is there a different page that maybe I am missing? I am trying to get this weight thing correct. I do not want to put myself and wife at risk for any legal probs. I hope you understand. I do appreciate your hgelp though......Thanks

Cat320 · 10-03-2006, 08:37 AM

Phil, The 07 web site I posted earlier has the same numbers as the brochure for the 05s (where I got the 15300)...they have not changed. Click on the site above, then click on "specifications" and scroll down until you get to the D/A and the 5th wheel towing...not ball hitch towing. May take a while, but it's there.

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