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02-18-2015, 07:32 AM
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Montana Fan
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Even load distribution while on site?
38' 5th wheel, I'm on a site that slopes forward, all 4 wheels are chocked AND I have x-chocks between both sets of wheels. My front jacks are much higher than normal because I had to go that high to get level (I'm considering adding blocks just to shorten them to add stability but we have not noticed a problem yet). My rear stabilizer jacks are down and solid.
The question that I have is concerning the weight distribution between the two axles (and tires). At what point do I worry about weight being removed from the front and too much load on the rear or do they continue to equalize and both carry equal weight? OR, are the front jacks taking so much of the weight (along with the rear stabilizers) that the axle load is reduced beyond normal "on the road" weight?
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02-18-2015, 07:37 AM
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Montana Master
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The "equalizer" between the axles will help "equalize" the axle weight. Sitting still in a camp ground, I can not imagine there is a problem.
As my Dad used to tell me, Son you are overthinking this. Go find something else to worry about.
Jim
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02-18-2015, 08:49 AM
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Montana Master
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I think it would have to be quite a significant slope to worry about much weight transfer. That is mainly a concern when traveling nose high (or, I guess, nose low) and causing higher tire wear on the heavier axle.
I use some 4"x6"x10" blocks under my front jacks to shorten the extension and to spread the load especially when on a softer surface.
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02-18-2015, 11:42 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Benson
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"As my Dad used to tell me, Son you are overthinking this. Go find something else to worry about."
Amen
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02-18-2015, 12:38 PM
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Montana Fan
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Gonna sit here for 6 weeks, just trying to decide if we ask for a more level site, but that would mean giving up a very private and quiet location.
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02-18-2015, 01:11 PM
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Site Team
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We've spent the whole winter with one side clear off the ground and a few months with the back end way up in the air. Never worried about it and didn't have any problems.
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02-18-2015, 05:04 PM
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Site Team
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EMCS-- First question I would ask is do you have the level-up system on your rig? If so, you have to watch what you are doing with the x-chocks. We were told they cold throw the axles out of alignment if you torque them to much with the level-up system. We were also told with the level-up system or even a regular drop down/electric system, the less length you have the legs the steadier the rig will be. That means if you can put blocks under the legs and the supports the better you will sit! If I'm wrong, I'm sure someone will come along and tell me so but this is what we were told at one of the Fall Rally's by Lippert!
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02-19-2015, 09:58 AM
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Montana Fan
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Location: fort myers
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Ask for a more level site.
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02-20-2015, 01:55 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Full Timer In Naples, Florida
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We have the X- chocks and love them, I just make sure it is the last thing on the rig after leveling and the first thing off.
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02-20-2015, 02:33 AM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Fountain Inn
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Quote:
quote:Originally posted by 8.1al
"As my Dad used to tell me, Son you are overthinking this. Go find something else to worry about."
Amen
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Second Amen to this.
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02-20-2015, 05:30 AM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: On the Road
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As stated, I may add blocks in order to shorten the jacks. Short jacks = sturdy, long jacks = wobbly, got it.
No level-up system, just electric front jacks, electric rear stabilizers, basic independent systems.
Overthinking? considering the amount of overweight tire/axle posts that are on every RV information site, a reasonable person can't help but think about it and runs the risk of being blasted/counseled for not.
One thing that I probably did do is put on the x-chocks as well as regular chocks, for safety from rolling before disconnect from the truck. So, the x-chocks were installed 'before' leveling.
Hate to give up this site, pull through on the end of a loop, farthest site from the entrance/office, patio not adjacent to another site, faces street, sounds anti-social but actually promotes front porch conversations from passers-by more than traditional sites.
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02-20-2015, 05:40 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Benson
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Sorry if we were over critical of your post. I don't see that you have done anything wrong with your setup. In your case the chocks and x-chocks should be in place before disconnecting. If you like your site I see no reason to move.
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