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01-17-2021, 10:32 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: North Ridgeville
Posts: 20,229
M.O.C. #2839
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This is the first winter up North in Ohio in 14 years. The Montana stays along side the S&B .It is completely shut down 50 amp breakers off Rv tilted slightly to one side and slightly nose down to aid in run off. Tires not on the concrete. We blew out all water lines then added @ one gallon of pink stuff in the tanks...just in case. There has been over 15 inches of snow on the roof. We are dry inside not a single leak anywhere. We have winterized many campers but never our Montana's.
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01-20-2021, 01:10 PM
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Seasoned Camper
Join Date: Sep 2018
Location: Plains
Posts: 54
M.O.C. #22710
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First thing I would do is upgrade to 40lb tanks. They fit.
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01-20-2021, 01:24 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Sep 2018
Location: New Castle
Posts: 112
M.O.C. #22550
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Not bad considering..but a couple of thoughts
We FT and currently tied up in Indiana. A tank is not terrible, but as others have suggested, seal up the unit. They say ours is “All Season””. What a joke. Maybe All season in Florida would be more accurate. Lol
*Seal up gaps, holes, walls , anyplace air can get in.
*Consider a small electric heater, in the storage tub. Open the wall and set close to funnel warm air to plumbing and pump .
* I monitor temp below with a remote thermometer. Works great. This will allow you to set thermostat low and not worry about plumbing freezing up.
* Check gaps around door and floor and steps. In ours you could crawl thru let alone keep out cold air.
* Pull in any slide you can. They leak like a screen door
* if you have flush windows, check for gaps in the weather seal. In ours, each had (2 or more) 1” gaps.
Lastly, anyplace there are holes you can see in the frame, seal up.
Our kitchen is in the rear, so have a fresh tank and plumbing running from front to back.
By sealing up, we have our electric fire place on, thermostat set at 70, stay quite comfy and burn thru a tank every 7-10 days
Good luck.
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01-20-2021, 02:03 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jun 2020
Location: Qualicum Beach
Posts: 665
M.O.C. #26399
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MaxwellD
Greetings again,
Well actually - it is SILENT as a thief in the night, but my 30 gal propane bottles only last 7-10 days. My 2018 3737 FL is parked at home, but I keep the furnace on for the occasional freezing periods. I am in Texas where it has been low 30’s / upper 20’a at night so I leave thermostat at 55 degrees.
I also noticed that the heater exhaust vent blows a lot of hot air to the outside - I guess it is supposed to do that, but that seems wasteful and inefficient. What’s up with that too?
Off to buy more propane now, thanks,
Max
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Very normal. We are living in ours full time. It is in the low 40's where we are and my thermostat is set to 65 during the day and 60 at night. The furnace almost never comes on, we use the fireplace heaters. They provide 5,000BTU which is enough to keep us warm in addition to warm throws.
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01-20-2021, 02:06 PM
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#25
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Established Member
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Flagstaff
Posts: 11
M.O.C. #9137
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I leave my 3121 hooked up in a RV park and split time over the winter with my home and RV. I don't winterize but leave the heater on and set the thermostat at the lowest point which is 40 degrees. I shut the water off and drain the hose but not the RV. Never have any problems and all I need to do is hook the water back up when I go back.
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01-20-2021, 03:39 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Albany
Posts: 407
M.O.C. #11972
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Here in OR we rarely get overnight temps below freezing. And when it is, it normally makes it above freezing during the day. I drain my water tank and open the low point drains and the fresh water drain. I use my compressor to blow out all the water lines and to make sure there is no water left in the faucets. I take care to make sure the fresh tank fill line from the convenience center is also blown out. I use a small electric space heater set at half-throttle on 750 watts. The heater has a fan to circulate air. Every time I check, even early in the AM on a cold day, the temp in my rig is never below 40 degrees. No antifreeze. The fireplace is an OK idea but remember, heat rises. Therefore, the fireplace fan will not circulate enough to warm the basement. I do open all cabinets which have plumbing, the toilet room and the shower to make it easy for the heat to get in those places. When it's time for me to hit the road for a last minute winter trip, I put the anode back in the water heater, put 20 gallons in the fresh tank, run the pump long enough to get water at all points of use and then get the fresh tank back up to about 20 gallons. That's all it takes for me to get on the road. If you chose to continue running your furnace, I'd opt for a large bulk tank that can be put beside your rig.
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01-20-2021, 09:05 PM
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#27
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Jul 2016
Location: Georgetown
Posts: 307
M.O.C. #18751
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MaxwellD
Greetings again,
Well actually - it is SILENT as a thief in the night, but my 30 gal propane bottles only last 7-10 days. My 2018 3737 FL is parked at home, but I keep the furnace on for the occasional freezing periods. I am in Texas where it has been low 30’s / upper 20’a at night so I leave thermostat at 55 degrees.
I also noticed that the heater exhaust vent blows a lot of hot air to the outside - I guess it is supposed to do that, but that seems wasteful and inefficient. What’s up with that too?
Off to buy more propane now, thanks,
Max
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I sure do hope you mean you are using 30# bottles not 30 gallon bottles....
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01-20-2021, 10:11 PM
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#28
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Seasoned Camper
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Filer
Posts: 51
M.O.C. #12412
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Our trailer will not freeze when the temp drops to mid 20 at night and the day time temp gets to the 40's with out the furnace. I have done this for several years when we return from the south, until I can winterize. When the night and day temp stay below 30 I will run furnace at set at 40 degrees.
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01-20-2021, 10:30 PM
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#29
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Centerville
Posts: 1,350
M.O.C. #9051
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MaxwellD
Greetings again,
Well actually - it is SILENT as a thief in the night, but my 30 gal propane bottles only last 7-10 days. My 2018 3737 FL is parked at home, but I keep the furnace on for the occasional freezing periods. I am in Texas where it has been low 30’s / upper 20’a at night so I leave thermostat at 55 degrees.
I also noticed that the heater exhaust vent blows a lot of hot air to the outside - I guess it is supposed to do that, but that seems wasteful and inefficient. What’s up with that too?
Off to buy more propane now, thanks,
Max
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You sound like you might be a good candidate for installing Cheap Heat to your furnace , heat it with electricity instead of propane, would save having to go get propane every week . I'm sure you never overcome the cost of adding the Cheap Heat ,but it is a great connivence if hooked up to electricity .
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01-21-2021, 10:16 AM
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#30
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Seasoned Camper
Join Date: Jun 2018
Location: Estherville
Posts: 53
M.O.C. #21904
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Just a thought. Last winter we were doing some work on our fiver outside in cold weather so I got a 100# cylinder of LP. That resulted in less switching of tanks and a cheaper cost per gallon. Just saying.
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01-21-2021, 04:48 PM
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#31
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Hagerstown
Posts: 866
M.O.C. #16013
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jrsemrad
Just a thought. Last winter we were doing some work on our fiver outside in cold weather so I got a 100# cylinder of LP. That resulted in less switching of tanks and a cheaper cost per gallon. Just saying.
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OR..... just go out and buy a good-sized cheap HF air compressor and blow your lines out and put a little red stuff in the traps and not have to worry about it. Your ready to go at a moment's notice and not have to spend all that money on propane or flushing out water lines.
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01-24-2021, 07:31 PM
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#32
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Established Member
Join Date: Dec 2019
Location: Grand Island
Posts: 39
M.O.C. #25534
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on using a small compressor to blow out the lines and a lil pink stuff in the traps. Quick connect for the compressor hook up, 30# on the compressor regulator so the faucet valves, etc. aren't burned by high pressure. Fast!, easy and cheap. Visiting family down south Christmas 2019, easy to do this quick before we returned to the frozen tundra of the Northland (Nebraska). Like having the lil compressor along fir a bunch of reasons.
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01-25-2021, 02:02 AM
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New Member
Join Date: Dec 2020
Location: Cleveland
Posts: 4
M.O.C. #27722
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This is our first year in a 3000RL. When the first cold front (below 23deg. At night/early morning) for several days, we very quickly went through our 2 30 gallon tanks. Now what we do is use a ceramic electric heater upstairs in the bedroom, the fireplace running and the furnace set on about 63-65deg. Our tanks are lasting more than 2 weeks even in the coldest situations (below freezing all day). We leave the bathroom door cracked just a bit to allow warm are in there to keep the line from freezing. BTW, we are fultimers in SE Tennessee.
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