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10-05-2016, 09:19 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: McKinney
Posts: 7,167
M.O.C. #6433
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2017 Superduty
Was at the Ford dealer this morning for an oil change, so I walked out to look at the new 2017 Superdutys. Could not believe how high the rear is. They have exceeded the point I could tow my trailer without putting a lift kit on it as I am already slightly nose high. They had 20" wheels, but so does my 2012 F350 SRW, and these trucks were much taller than mine. My Monte is a 2007, but I think this may be a problem for newer trailers also unless the new trailers are also getting taller.
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Bill & Patricia
Riley, our Golden
2007 3075RL (recently sold, currently without)
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10-05-2016, 09:38 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Pensacola (mail forward service)
Posts: 3,198
M.O.C. #13740
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That is the issue when you only look at 4x4 trucks. I'm not towing up a dirt/mud farm road so I see no need to go to a four wheel drive unit. Guess you will have to buy one and do a low rider job to it. John
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2012 F350 6.7 L dually, 2013 3800RE with 6 pt leveling, Sumitomo 17.5" load range h tires, Samsung 18 cu ft residential fridge, 8k Morryde I.S. with disc brakes. Full timing since 2012.
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10-05-2016, 10:14 AM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Maryville
Posts: 144
M.O.C. #15933
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Exactly why I tow with a 2016 DRW 4X2 Super Duty to keep the truck down and the front of the Montana lower
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10-05-2016, 10:40 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: McKinney
Posts: 7,167
M.O.C. #6433
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Here in north TX where we typically have snow/ice no more than once or twice a year for no more than a couple days each time, it is almost impossible to find a 4x2 except in basic XL/XLT work trucks. Anything from Lariat up on dealer lots is almost always going to be a 4x4, SRW or DRW. It would be a matter of taking what you can find, but may not be exactly what you want. Or order exactly what you want in a 4x2 and wait 8 weeks or so for delivery. I have ordered new years ago, but not my preference. But then, I don't have any plans to buy a new one anytime soon anyway.
I do occasionally drive thru muddy pasture roads to our hunting cabin. Have made it before in a 4x2 with limited slip. But just barely. And actually got stopped a little short at the incline up toward the cabin. Current 4x4 makes that easier. But have never used 4 wheel while towing.
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Bill & Patricia
Riley, our Golden
2007 3075RL (recently sold, currently without)
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10-05-2016, 12:32 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Lake Gaston
Posts: 8,773
M.O.C. #12156
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4WD is a must for us. I am curious about the aluminum bed based on the commercials GM is running and cost of body work if a bump and crunch happens.
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Mike and Lorraine
2002 3655 FL, 2005 3650RK
2010 3665RE, 2015 3910FB
F350 crew cab dually 6.7
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10-05-2016, 01:59 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Salem
Posts: 7,550
M.O.C. #2283
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It's a Chevy add. GM don't show you what happens in a hailstorm. The 20 inch tires and the 18s are the same diameter within 3/8 inch.
Lynwood
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10-05-2016, 03:01 PM
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Site Team
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Carmichael - CA
Posts: 7,366
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GM will probably not be running that ad next year when they supposedly come out with their aluminum body. Typical opportunistic marketing spin (why should the politicians have all the fun?).
And who in their right mind would dump rock like that?
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Carl (n Susan)
There is more to life than fuel mileage.
2012 Montana 3700RL Big Sky Package towed by a 2015 Ford F350 6.7L PSD 4WD CC LWB
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10-05-2016, 03:04 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: McKinney
Posts: 7,167
M.O.C. #6433
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Quote:
quote:Originally posted by 1retired06
4WD is a must for us. I am curious about the aluminum bed based on the commercials GM is running and cost of body work if a bump and crunch happens.
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Interesting on that toolbox drop. They zoom in for a closeup of the Ford, but a distant shot from behind of the Chevy. ?? But I have had pickups since the 60's, hauled a lot of tools, furniture, lumber, landscape stones, etc. in most of them, and have barely scraped the paint in any of them, never any dents of any consequence. Later ones have had spray in liners. Not something I am much concerned about.
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Bill & Patricia
Riley, our Golden
2007 3075RL (recently sold, currently without)
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10-05-2016, 04:12 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Elgin
Posts: 140
M.O.C. #15975
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4x4 vs 4x2 I go 4x4 every time. Besides the Midwest snows when I am not towing, the sand and loose soil at many of the lesser developed ca,P grounds has me firmly in the traction camp. Had I not had four wheel drive this past weekend, I would not have made it in or out of an absolutely gorgeous campsite on the shores of Lake Superior.
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Jeff and Kristi
2015 F350 King Ranch Crew Cab SB 6.7 PSD
2013 3900FB
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10-06-2016, 02:18 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Lake Gaston
Posts: 8,773
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Exactly why we also are 4WD must have people. We have been in the same boat you described numerous times. Is an expensive option.
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Mike and Lorraine
2002 3655 FL, 2005 3650RK
2010 3665RE, 2015 3910FB
F350 crew cab dually 6.7
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10-06-2016, 05:06 AM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Edmonds, Wa
Posts: 401
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Quote:
quote:Originally posted by carl n susan
GM will probably not be running that ad next year when they supposedly come out with their aluminum body. Typical opportunistic marketing spin (why should the politicians have all the fun?).
And who in their right mind would dump rock like that?
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My wife!!!
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10-06-2016, 06:32 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Lake Havasu City AZ.
Posts: 1,811
M.O.C. #10552
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Ranch560. You are one brave man.
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Wayne and Ann Moore
2015 Ford F-350 King Ranch
Firestone air bags, bed saver.
Add 40 GAL tank in bed.
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10-06-2016, 06:59 AM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: SE
Posts: 478
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4x4 has come in handy in loose stone/hilly CG'so. Also helps in mid-Atlatic winters. I don't think I'd buy a 4x2 truck...even if just for fair weather towing.
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10-06-2016, 11:05 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Kville
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I'm on my 6th pick up, second dually. Never seen a need for 4wd, thus never had one and never been stuck. Pulling a 5th wheel is even more reason not to have 4wd...if the weather is bad, we don't go.
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10-06-2016, 12:26 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Eugene
Posts: 1,053
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Here in Oregon, I don't think you can find a 4x2. There is a campground we go to that is all on grass. They are always watering and when I back up into our favorite spot I spin the back wheels and have to put it in 4x4 to get into spot. I can see you people in the south not needing a 4x4, but in the NW most all trucks sold are 4x4 in the 250,350, 2500, 3500 models.
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10-06-2016, 01:06 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Lake Havasu City AZ.
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M.O.C. #10552
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4X4 is not that much more money than 4X2 and one can get a better price when selling it. Plus enjoying having the extra power to the ground with the 4X4. Again JMHO.
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Wayne and Ann Moore
2015 Ford F-350 King Ranch
Firestone air bags, bed saver.
Add 40 GAL tank in bed.
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10-06-2016, 01:54 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Salem
Posts: 7,550
M.O.C. #2283
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I've had both 2X4 and 4X4 like most people here. I've never really needed the 4X4 except to cool my transmission while going up a very long steep grade on a gravel road. The road is the Union Pass road in Dubois WY. You top out at 9300 feet. Using low range will cool your transmission. I will also use low range for is creeping over rough terrain. Something most people wouldn't do anyway.
Lynwood
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10-06-2016, 03:12 PM
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Seasoned Camper
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: Campton
Posts: 54
M.O.C. #16108
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I live in Northern New England so a 4x4 is a must, as far as loading stuff in the back bed, buy pallet load of stone or heating pellets at Lowes or HD and you'll wish your bed was made of Titanium.
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10-08-2016, 02:59 AM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: May 2006
Location: San Antonio
Posts: 429
M.O.C. #5757
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What mlh said. My previous truck was a 1999 F250 SD. One weekend taking the grandkids camping in South Texas (summer) had to jockey the rig up about a 30 degree grade multiple times to get in to the site. Overheated and burned up the transmission but still limped home. Expensive repair. Now with my 2015 w/4wd I just put it in low and creep up the grade in forward or reverse-no muss, no fuss.
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10-08-2016, 03:32 AM
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Established Member
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: Damascus
Posts: 17
M.O.C. #18068
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I just ordered our new Monte pick it up in November, boy I sure hope it matches up to my truck 2016 f 250 4x4
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