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08-29-2007, 03:34 AM
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Seasoned Camper
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location:
Posts: 93
M.O.C. #7484
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Rockin' & rollin'
Just took our first short trip in the new Mountaineer 307 RKD and generally liked it a lot. One thing we both really noticed however, was that it really "wiggled" around much more than our previous fiver. Of course, this unit is about 3 feet longer and hundreds of pounds heavier than the old one. We do have the "bipod" stabilizer under the king pin, which helps greatly in the bedroom/bathroom area. That is the area the old unit was the worst for moving around. Now the worst movement by far is the kitchen/living area. We have a rear kitchen model, and you could see the coffee sloshing around in the coffee maker when you walked across the room! I had extended the rear stabilizer jacks and tightened them up a few times, but still had a lot of motion. Several questions - 1. Is this type of movement a common problem? 2. Will placing something larger like 4X4 under the stab jacks help? 3. What other suggestions do you have to fix the problem? I hate to admit it, but I'm gettin' too old to rock and roll! Thanks for all the great help so far. This is a great source of information and assistance.
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08-29-2007, 01:27 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Castle Rock
Posts: 1,338
M.O.C. #4624
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Dennis,
Chocks between the tires will help a great deal, most people will agree. I have BAL's from Camping World but I know others use Roto-Chocks. I know it helped our exponentially.
mac
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08-29-2007, 01:36 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location:
Posts: 2,376
M.O.C. #6575
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When we brought the fiver back in last week, I set up using concrete blocks (we're set up at the home base). This meant the jacks (front and rear) were not extended nearly so far. I have been surprised how much more stable it is. I saw a Mountaineer in Grand Isle, LA that had what looked to be plastic pyramid blocks under the jacks. I want to find four of those first chance I get. The concrete blocks are a little heavy to haul around.
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08-29-2007, 01:48 PM
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Seasoned Camper
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Springfield
Posts: 81
M.O.C. #6238
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I just installed a set of RV stabilizers from plugitright.com on our 3400RL Montana, seem to stop ALL movement.
Cost less then some of the others.
Robb
Volvo 610 pickup
[Robb, can you please explain how you got a Volvo 610 registered as a PICKUP? There are a whole bunch of guys out here waiting for that nugget of information!]
RVW, MOC Admin
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08-29-2007, 01:52 PM
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New Member
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 6
M.O.C. #7531
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Check this website out: http://www.jtrv.com/our_products.html They are a wonderful product.
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08-29-2007, 04:23 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Oakland
Posts: 887
M.O.C. #5811
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I also use the JT's Stabilizers and they really help. With the JT's and wheel chocks the movement is greatly reduced.
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08-29-2007, 04:29 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Bonita Springs
Posts: 1,943
M.O.C. #6977
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I use A&W jacks between the tires and they really help also get some big blocks or build you own out of 2x6 to make a stack 8" high about 12" sq in the front then a block or 2 in the rear helps also,,the ft king is very important john
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08-29-2007, 04:45 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Winfield
Posts: 7,327
M.O.C. #6846
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We use the CW Bal-chocks also (the kind yhat comes with the wrench to tighten them). Use 8x8 solid blocks under all stabilizer jacks and use four stacker jacks halfway between axles and stabilizer jacks. This has virtually eliminated movement at a relatively cheap price. There is still some movement when the washer goes into one of it's high speed spin cycles though. I have heard nothing but good reviews on the JT stabilizers if you want to invest a little more money.
Bingo
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Bingo and Cathy - Our adventures begin in the hills of WV. We are blessed by our 2014 3850FL Big Sky (previous 2011 3750FL and 2007 3400RL) that we pull with a 2007 Chevy Silverado Classic DRW CC dually.
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08-29-2007, 04:54 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Haldimand County
Posts: 2,413
M.O.C. #122
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Some R&R seems inevitable, but the suggestions above all help. Another tip we had at the last Fall rally was not to tighten the rear stabilizers too tight, just snug.
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08-29-2007, 07:01 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: St.Maries
Posts: 1,010
M.O.C. #7329
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SlickWillie, you can get those plastic blocks at WallMart/.
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08-30-2007, 02:56 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Paola
Posts: 5,739
M.O.C. #4961
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Dennis, I have tried it all and it helps but I got tired of hauling around all those blocks,tripod and jacks. I got rid of that and purchased the JT Strong arm stabilizers and that stopped all of the movement. You can get the system for around $300.00 and takes about 5-6 hours to install. I would not own another 5th wheel without them.
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Dennis & Linda Ward
Paola, Kansas
Montana 3735MK Legacy Edition
1200 watts of Solar
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08-30-2007, 02:12 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Sunshine
Posts: 1,445
M.O.C. #538
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You can also look at PLUGITRIGHT.COM They have a set for a lot less.
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08-30-2007, 02:51 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Bakersfield
Posts: 214
M.O.C. #3933
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Look up some quality stabilizers that have worked extremely well for us: Steadyfast.com. We no longer have to carry a lot of stabilizing equipment around with us and sold our tripod too. Now all we have to do is tighten three knobs after setting up and cranking down the jacks.
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09-04-2007, 08:25 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Virginia Beach
Posts: 708
M.O.C. #6958
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We use the plug it right stablizers (went with them over the JT's simply because of price). Them and BAL Chocks remove 90% of movement. No longer haul around and use my kingpin stablizer.
Bill
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01-27-2008, 03:11 AM
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New Member
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: San Diego
Posts: 3
M.O.C. #8117
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Stay away from a King Pin Stabilizer. They are a real pain and they don't work very well. This last weekend I was out in Quartzite Arizona and I saw a new Cross Brace Stabilizer from Winfield RV Products. It permanently attaches to the front landing legs. When your Montana is level you merely insert two pins and twist the braces to tension it. It was pretty slick. They demonstrated it on my rig and it worked great. It was simple and easy to use. At the RV show I looked at JT strong arms and Steady fast, but I am afraid of voiding my frame warranty by drilling all of those holes. After seeing the Winfield Cross Brace Stabilizer I think I will buy. They only cost $179 and install in minutes. They said they are a new company. Has anyone else seen or heard of them.
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01-29-2008, 08:46 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Hesperia
Posts: 1,321
M.O.C. #7787
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Dennis,Iam thinking about installing the JT's.
Iam looking on E-Bay and found this,can anyone out there tell me if this is a good price? It includes the rear ones and also free shipping.looks like he may take reasonable offers.
Also,has anyone had any problems with installation on a 3400?
Jack
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/JTs-Strong-Arm-
RV-Jack-Stabilizers-Complete-New-Set_
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ZWD1VQQtrksidZp1638Q2em118Q2el1247
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01-30-2008, 04:02 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Lone Tree
Posts: 5,615
M.O.C. #6109
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We installed the JT stabilizers on this rig, and I'm sold. It is a rock. The pin tripod is laying in the basement of the house.
Good wheel chocks are also a must, but they cannot overcome the sidewall movement in the radial tires like the JTs can.
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01-30-2008, 04:16 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: YUMA
Posts: 861
M.O.C. #2625
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Quote:
quote:Originally posted by jjackflash
Dennis,Iam thinking about installing the JT's.
Iam looking on E-Bay and found this,can anyone out there tell me if this is a good price? It includes the rear ones and also free shipping.looks like he may take reasonable offers.
Also,has anyone had any problems with installation on a 3400?
Jack
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/JTs-Strong-Arm-
RV-Jack-Stabilizers-Complete-New-Set_
W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ50073QQih
Z014QQitemZ330192048548QQrdZ1QQsspagename
ZWD1VQQtrksidZp1638Q2em118Q2el1247
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Jack, this web site is only $299.95 with free shipping.
http://www.rvwholesalers.com/catalog...?productid=924
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01-30-2008, 06:06 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Hesperia
Posts: 1,321
M.O.C. #7787
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Thanks Bill,I'll look into that!
Jack
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01-30-2008, 10:51 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Casa Grande
Posts: 5,369
M.O.C. #6333
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I had JT's installed last week at Q. WHAT A DIFFERENCE!!! Gave my king pin stabilizer away while I was there. One thing to remember when you buy for a 3400 is that the rear jacks are telescoping and not scissor. Makes a difference.....
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