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04-02-2011, 12:51 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: K.C.
Posts: 11,731
M.O.C. #5980
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Suspension upgrade started
I would rather be on a flat hard surface, but I am on gravel, makes it harder to work.
I changed out one spring, 3K to 4K on drivers side, did the wet-bolts on that one.
It's hard for me to plan a day, I always get a service call, have to stop, put everything away and leave. At least one is done.
Link:
https://picasaweb.google.com/Jimsue13/SuspensionWorkStarted?feat=directlink
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04-02-2011, 02:41 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: North East
Posts: 1,050
M.O.C. #10758
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Nice looking springs, and GREAT pictures. THANKS!!!
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04-02-2011, 03:13 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Bum F Egypt
Posts: 979
M.O.C. #2733
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Is there a marking on the new spring to keep the axle lined up or would you just need to measure to find center? Gravel is tuff thats what I have to lay on also, get you a piece of cheep plywood to lay on, might even get a nap in? Ozz I used a small come-a-long to pull my spring over to make up to the wet bolts.
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04-02-2011, 03:37 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: K.C.
Posts: 11,731
M.O.C. #5980
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Ha! I cut up all the plywood I had to make the little squares for the supports and pads, shims also.
The C-clamp worked OK, I found that if you hook to the rigid outboard support, the other one is easier to hook to.
The springs have a locater pin-dead center, I checked the measurements, I figured I would put it in back-wards, but it's fool-proof.
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04-03-2011, 03:09 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: New Bern
Posts: 4,372
M.O.C. #8728
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Ozz,
I know what you mean about starting a project and having to go on a call. Sometimes, it's tough to get things done.
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04-03-2011, 03:32 AM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Crawfordville
Posts: 146
M.O.C. #4328
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I use these when working on the ground or anyplace where I need a litle padding. Since they inter lock you can make they any size.
http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_1...blockType=G209
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04-03-2011, 03:46 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: K.C.
Posts: 11,731
M.O.C. #5980
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Oh yea, I have them in my shop as well. Mine have tons of holes in them from welding, but are still soft to stand on.
My problem with the gravel is that I have a NASCAR type jack, the bottle jack, 4 jack stands, the 2 rear stabilizers, all need to have pads and flat boards under them. I am running out of plywood to cut up.... 
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04-04-2011, 11:30 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Azle
Posts: 615
M.O.C. #9140
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Nice job. Excellent step by step pics! I also have gravel as a base to work from. It teaches character.
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04-04-2011, 01:12 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: K.C.
Posts: 11,731
M.O.C. #5980
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Quote:
quote:Originally posted by azleflyer
Nice job. Excellent step by step pics! I also have gravel as a base to work from. It teaches character.
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 Yes it does, a few new words as well...
Thanks
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04-04-2011, 01:26 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Land O Lakes
Posts: 2,751
M.O.C. #7753
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Oz, did you use the new flat u-bolts, or the old ones???
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04-04-2011, 01:34 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: K.C.
Posts: 11,731
M.O.C. #5980
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I used the old one. I only have one spring done so far, maybe tomorrow I will do another.
I had a full thread nut on 3 and almost a full nut on the fourth.
The 3K spring was not as thick as the 4K.
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04-05-2011, 01:02 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Brownsburg
Posts: 1,186
M.O.C. #5634
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Ozz, you really should consider putting together a step by step do-it-yourself repair manual for the Montana in book form or CD and sell it. Something Keystone doesn't do very well is provide repair manuals.
As many Montana's that are out there - could be a lucrative business especially in the CD format. You could burn copies from any campground you might be holed up in and leave the A/C business to someone else.
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04-05-2011, 02:25 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: K.C.
Posts: 11,731
M.O.C. #5980
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Phil, you are a smart man.
I just may try something like that. in 5 months 10 days 3 hrs 34 minutes and 3 seconds.
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04-05-2011, 03:01 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Winfield
Posts: 7,327
M.O.C. #6846
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A working retirement, why would I not expect anything less?? Can I get a signed copy as a promotional aid (Of course it would have to be a complimentary copy since I am cheap!!) 
Bingo
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Bingo and Cathy - Our adventures begin in the hills of WV. We are blessed by our 2014 3850FL Big Sky (previous 2011 3750FL and 2007 3400RL) that we pull with a 2007 Chevy Silverado Classic DRW CC dually.
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04-05-2011, 03:14 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: K.C.
Posts: 11,731
M.O.C. #5980
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Bingo, it never hurts to ask.... You are too handy, you don't need it.
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04-05-2011, 12:25 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Silverton
Posts: 489
M.O.C. #11144
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I am beginning to think the same thing (about the repair manual/owners manual) that it would be nice if it was abit more "model" specific. IE where the water pump is located, etc.
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04-05-2011, 01:39 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Indian Land
Posts: 1,142
M.O.C. #9808
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Jim,
Thanks for sharing, I love the way you document every thing. Once picture bothers me, the U-Bolts.
I am not an engineer, but it sticks in my head that a minimum of 3 threads should be showing, but I don't know where it comes from.
exnavydriver ask, "Oz, did you use the new flat u-bolts, or the old ones???"
Not sure what " New Flat U-Bolts" are, but if they longer, I would go with them.
You know the old saying, " There is never time to do it right, but there is always time to do it over".
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04-05-2011, 02:10 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: K.C.
Posts: 11,731
M.O.C. #5980
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my experience as a machinist and a Journeyman Pipefitter lets me be comfortable with my nuts...
But thanks for being concerned.
Today when I did the second 4K spring, I got all of them flush, you would gain nothing with more bolt sticking through the nut.
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04-05-2011, 03:17 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Indian Land
Posts: 1,142
M.O.C. #9808
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Quote:
quote:Originally posted by Ozz
my experience as a machinist and a Journeyman Pipefitter lets me be comfortable with my nuts...
But thanks for being concerned.
Today when I did the second 4K spring, I got all of them flush, you would gain nothing with more bolt sticking through the nut.
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LOL,
I am glade you are comfortable with your nuts.
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04-05-2011, 03:28 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Navarre
Posts: 1,527
M.O.C. #9765
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Whoa Ozz,
NO THREADS SHOWING, The self locking nut guy is going to come along and make you wish you had a F-350.   
Mike
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