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Old 09-20-2018, 07:37 AM   #1
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Upgrades Necessary and Nice to have.

Just ordered first 5th from Hershey show and would like to know recommended MUST HAVES and also future upgrades to look into.
Also tips and tricks welcome like ďclips, hooks, adapters, etcĒ
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Old 09-20-2018, 09:14 AM   #2
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The first must have is a Surge Protector. The 2 major brands are Surge Guard and Progressive industries EMS. Both brands basically do the same with maybe slight differences. You can either get a portable unit which you plug into campsite power box or you can get a hardwired unit that is permanently mounted in your RV. I installed the Surge Guard 50 amp hardwired unit with the remote panel in my RV and it has been working great with no issues. It's personal preference as to which one you get. Do your research and decide which one works for you and also do a search on this forum.
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Old 09-20-2018, 09:14 AM   #3
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Would help to know if Montana or High Country and floorplan.
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Old 09-20-2018, 11:20 AM   #4
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Would help to know if Montana or High Country and floorplan.

2019 Montana 3855BR 20th Anniversary (Sorry thought it said on my profile to the left)
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Old 09-20-2018, 11:27 AM   #5
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The first must have is a Surge Protector. The 2 major brands are Surge Guard and Progressive industries EMS. Both brands basically do the same with maybe slight differences. You can either get a portable unit which you plug into campsite power box or you can get a hardwired unit that is permanently mounted in your RV. I installed the Surge Guard 50 amp hardwired unit with the remote panel in my RV and it has been working great with no issues. It's personal preference as to which one you get. Do your research and decide which one works for you and also do a search on this forum.

Thanks been considering EMS vs Surge Only but have heard issues with hardwired units and certain generators like Honda and floating ground and no bypass on the hardwired units. I don't have a generator yet... the unit is ordered with Generator prep so I can do LP generator or can look into something like the Honda units. It has 2 AC's so eventually would like to get some suggestions about:


Power:
battery upgrades to do
solar panels
generator
slow start for AC's


eventually would like the ability to have solar for boon docking but for our first season with it we'll be using our seasonal site.


As far as Solar does anyone know, if possible, to use Solar as primary and House as secondary? We pay for electric at our seasonal which is fine but if I can use solar to offset part of that cost then that would be useful, as well as having the solar ready for dry camping.


Unit 3855BR comes with Residential Fridge so want to make sure whether we are doing a 2 hour or 6 hour drive things stay cold. Anyone with Residential Fridges have issues with this? I've only had RV fridges in the past that can run on gas while driving so hasn't been issue.
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Old 09-20-2018, 11:45 AM   #6
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I have the Progressive hardwired and it does have a bypass on my remote readout. Very happy. I did have to add a neutral ground bonded plug with my Honda, very easy to make yourself.
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Old 09-20-2018, 11:55 AM   #7
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I have the Progressive hardwired and it does have a bypass on my remote readout. Very happy. I did have to add a neutral ground bonded plug with my Honda, very easy to make yourself.

So you create a plug with neutral and ground jumped and plug that into the generator and good to go?
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Old 09-20-2018, 12:04 PM   #8
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2019 Montana 3855BR 20th Anniversary (Sorry thought it said on my profile to the left)
I am on my phone and did not see it. If you add the info to your signature and click on Show Signature then that info will always show below your message as it shows below many of ours.
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Old 09-20-2018, 12:08 PM   #9
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Yes that is correct.
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Old 09-20-2018, 12:19 PM   #10
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Anyone have recommendations on EMS-LCHW50 vs EMS-HW50C.
Also mount location?
Also looking at Mopeka Dual Tank Sensor with Remote Monitor (https://www.campingworld.com/mopeka-...8aAuPxEALw_wcB)


Would probably want both remotes to be mounted inside the control panel where other monitors are.
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Old 09-20-2018, 01:07 PM   #11
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Make sure you review the pros and cons of external vs internal EMS systems. If you are planning to boondock with a genny you want an internal system that you can turn off or an external that you don't plug in.

Not sure what size inverter your rig will come with for the residential reefer but you are going to want 2000-3000 watts for boondocking. Many of the models with the residential reefer come with 2000 which will work to power other things than the reefer.

After the EMS, my first priority would be your battery bank. I would go to a 4 or 6 battery bank of 6 volt golf cart batteries. If you have deep pockets consider going lithium - that bank would run you $4000-5000. This will support most of what you would want to do later with boondocking. If you can do this right away I would not waste money on the second 12 volt battery they will try to sell you as part of the residential reefer package. If you are not sure about boondocking wait on the battery bank.

Take your time on a lot of the other upgrades - read and talk to other folks before jumping on every new gadget. You should already have good tires, solid steps, good suspension and king pin and if you went legacy you should get disk brakes.
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Where are you finding Legacy package will include disc brakes?
Disc brakes aren’t even in the available options I’m seeing on Montana order form.
Maybe I’m not looking in the right place.
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That is what was briefed by the Montana rep at the Western Rally this summer for the 19 legacy models. I do not believe the disc brakes are an option but they are part of the legacy package.
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Old 09-20-2018, 01:47 PM   #14
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Make sure you review the pros and cons of external vs internal EMS systems. If you are planning to boondock with a genny you want an internal system that you can turn off or an external that you don't plug in.
If I understand the bonded neutral ground plug then this would work for internal and external EMS units (even without bypass). What, if any, are the pros and cons of each then?

Thanks for the info on the battery banks. I definitely donít have deep pockets so will probably have to work up to that. Maybe while at seasonal I can get box plus 2 x 6 and work up to 4 or 6 total? Based on your comment guessing mine will only come with 1 x 12 and not 2?
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Sorry OP, forgot to answer your question.
1) EMS
2) water pressure regulator
3) water softener ( yep keeps wife happy)
4) enough truck to handle 5’er
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Op ours has residential fridge and came with 2 batteries
We have traveled 7 hours and had water pump on making ice going down the road.
Never boondocked yet, but carry a Champion 3500 hybrid generator just in case.
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If I understand the bonded neutral ground plug then this would work for internal and external EMS units (even without bypass). What, if any, are the pros and cons of each then?

Thanks for the info on the battery banks. I definitely donít have deep pockets so will probably have to work up to that. Maybe while at seasonal I can get box plus 2 x 6 and work up to 4 or 6 total? Based on your comment guessing mine will only come with 1 x 12 and not 2?
Here is a thread on internal vs external EMS.

http://www.montanaowners.com/forums/...ad.php?t=74094

Most dealers install a second battery in rigs with a residential reefer.
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Where are you finding Legacy package will include disc brakes?
Disc brakes arenít even in the available options Iím seeing on Montana order form.
Maybe Iím not looking in the right place.
I didnít mention disc brakes but 20th with Legacy did have them on the order form under Legacy package. Didnít opt for the Legacy $8k option.
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Sorry OP, forgot to answer your question.
1) EMS
2) water pressure regulator
3) water softener ( yep keeps wife happy)
4) enough truck to handle 5íer
Have 2. Is 3 that useful? 4 will come next year just got rid of 2500 Hemi 6.4 and plan is to buy SRW 1 TON for this. Havenít decided which brand but pretty much decided SRW over DRW.
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Have 2. Is 3 that useful? 4 will come next year just got rid of 2500 Hemi 6.4 and plan is to buy SRW 1 TON for this. Havenít decided which brand but pretty much decided SRW over DRW.
Get a Diesel. All of the trucks are great trucks but just get a diesel.
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