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08-30-2011, 01:03 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Elgin
Posts: 262
M.O.C. #11570
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SURGE PROTECTOR
I just purchased a EMS-PT50C surge protector with the lock bracket on it.
My question is should I use a cable or chain to run thru the bracket to lock the unit to the power post ?? Now that I'm writing this I'm thinking a chain would be best. What length do you think I would need ??
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08-30-2011, 01:15 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Topsham
Posts: 904
M.O.C. #10761
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We have the EMS-PT50C surge protector and we use a 3 foot chain. It wraps around the post and leaves us some extra. Have not had a problem yet.
Jim
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08-30-2011, 11:39 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Cedar Rapids
Posts: 4,876
M.O.C. #1944
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I use a Brinks cable about 10 ft long. Most of the time I'm able to lock it to the rig.
Orv
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08-31-2011, 04:35 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Atlanta
Posts: 908
M.O.C. #7915
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I put a chain around the SG and power stalk, then covered the whole thing with an old tire cover.
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08-31-2011, 05:21 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Vermontville
Posts: 1,129
M.O.C. #9045
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So far I don't even lock mine. Started to but it got to be to much of a hassle. Haven't had a bit of problem. Now that I said this I am probably jinxed......lol
I have a 3' cable that worked ok I just found that wrapping it around the power stand all they had to do was unplug it slide it up over the top. So I just gave up. I suppose if you got a long enough cable you could lock it to the trailer. My next one will be hard wired!!
Dave
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08-31-2011, 07:22 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Eugene
Posts: 1,053
M.O.C. #5091
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I am curious as to where most of you puechased your surge protector.Was it at tweetys? I found one on Amazon.com for $109 and change with free shipping. Haven't bought one yet.
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08-31-2011, 07:38 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Topsham
Posts: 904
M.O.C. #10761
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We purchased it from Tweety's.
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08-31-2011, 02:13 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Texas City
Posts: 5,736
M.O.C. #7673
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PT50C from RV Upgrades.
I use the chain. It can wrap around most pedestals a couple times, but the nice thing about a chain link is that it can be locked along any of the links. So sometime I just go around once and let the extra just hang-on-down. In most instances I have been able to just go around the pedestal and the chain is tight enough that it cannot be slipped over th electrical box. In a couple situations I have had to include the metal pipe water spigot in the tie down. I have not been in any situation where I have not been able to secure it.
However, I do realize that it is to keep the honest people honest. A pair of bolt cutters will make mince steel out of the clip on the PT50C, and in some cases, if big enough bolt cutters, they can cut the chain link. But that is a pretty big bolt cutter for my chain. The chain I use is between 2' to 3' feet. I've not measured it, it was just laying around the house.
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08-31-2011, 02:34 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: North East
Posts: 1,050
M.O.C. #10758
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Quote:
quote:Originally posted by bigred715
I am curious as to where most of you purchased your surge protector.Was it at tweetys? I found one on Amazon.com for $109 and change with free shipping. Haven't bought one yet.
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There is a big difference between a surge protector and an EMS. Here is a link to the EMS that everyone is talking about :
http://www.progressiveindustries.net/ems_pt50c.htm
Tweety's had the best price a few months ago when I bought mine.
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08-31-2011, 02:35 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Ione
Posts: 582
M.O.C. #11371
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I bought a "Portable Surge Protector 120 - 240V 50 Amp" from AdventureRV.net for $309 + $15 shipping to Calif. Cheapest place I could find.
Frank
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08-31-2011, 02:35 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Atlanta
Posts: 908
M.O.C. #7915
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The reason I put the old tire cover on is so people won't see the chain...or the SG. If somebody questions me about the cover I tell them it's to keep the rain out of the electrical connection.
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09-01-2011, 03:17 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Elgin
Posts: 262
M.O.C. #11570
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I bought my EMS from Tweety's for $349 which was the cheapest price I could find.
I decided to go with the EMS after my stick house suffered an electrical surge & we lost TV's, DVD Intercom unit, etc. Also, I've heard reduced voltage is just as deadly as over voltage.
In any case, I feel much safer now.
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09-02-2011, 03:47 AM
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New Member
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Danville
Posts: 7
M.O.C. #11677
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If I buy the 50 amp progressive industries portable unit, can I plug my dog bone into a 30 amp service at the campground and then plug the 50 amp power management unit into it and finally my 50 amp shore power cord into the 50 amp power management unit, ultimately running to the RV?
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09-02-2011, 04:00 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: North Ridgeville
Posts: 20,229
M.O.C. #2839
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We have not locked, chained or covered it for over 5 years and scores of C.G. We still have it. Personal choice.
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09-02-2011, 04:01 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Ione
Posts: 582
M.O.C. #11371
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Northforker,
YES, I do that all the time if only 30 amp is there.
Frank
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09-07-2011, 02:59 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Shelburne
Posts: 688
M.O.C. #8693
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I've been told that the surge protection is sacrificial. Every time it stops a surge, it loses some capability. Bigger surge, more loss. Eventually, it's useless. Hopefully, it has some kind of indicator that surge capacity is still available. So, having one for a long time may mean that it's not working well and the next surge may be the last.
On the up side, AFAIK, the 50A units tend to have more capacity (stated in joules) than the 30A units. This capacity is available regardless of the connection. So, a 50A unit is said to be better than a 30A, when connected to a 30A source.
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09-07-2011, 08:53 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Indian Land
Posts: 1,142
M.O.C. #9808
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I have hardwire EMS from Tweety's
http://tweetys.com/electrical-manage...rdwire-50.aspx
I like having the display in the coach, where I can monitor volts and amps being used in real time.
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