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Old 05-13-2019, 06:30 PM   #1
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380 Toyhauler door

Hope I am doing this right! I purchased my toyhauler almost a year ago. I have a new 2019 street glide. I am single so it's just me loading and unloading my bike..and it freaks me out. I've only done it twice now but this last time I couldn't get traction on the door (covered in what seems like sandpaper) and I lost it, my bike fell over and pretty much crushed the front fender but at least it DIDN"T fall off the door. Any suggestions as to what I can put down or an safer easier way to load and unload? TIA
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Old 05-14-2019, 07:22 PM   #2
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one issue is the floor of the garage is high & makes for a steep angle, when I load a bike I raise the front of the camper up to lessen it a bit. It really does help to have a spotter & try to always load or unload when it is dry, that coating gets real slippery. I thought about a rubber mat, but if its not secure it could spin out. I use a front wheel stand & a little momentum, dont stop half way up as you will get high centered & go up & into the stand. If you are using the stand you should make sure it is secured so it doesn't move. What I do is strap it to the tie downs since I don't want anything permanent in the way. It takes some practice & having someone to help is a big plus the first few times.
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Old 05-14-2019, 07:41 PM   #3
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Renegade is spot on and we do the same. The bottom of the camper is really high in the air for a ramp and the ramp is shorter than normal due to not extending all the way to the top of the roof like conventional toyhaulers. That combination along with the slick surface material is an accident waiting to happen. We haven't dropped the bike yet but you certainly can't put a plastic box on the surface it's like an ice rink!


You would think by now maybe Keystone would correct the issue if for no other reason than someone will likely eventually sue them when they get hurt as a result of the terrible design. At the very least come up with a better cover material for that ramp!!!
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Old 05-14-2019, 07:41 PM   #4
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Never had any issues riding my lectra glide in and out, I have it hooked up to the TV. I have a front wheel stand that has four holes for bolting it down. I used four 5/16-18 wood inserts from Lowes so I can remove the bolts and stand when not needed. Very secure. Remember, you don't have to go fast but you can't stop when going up.
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A non-scid paint is available. The same can be done by spreading sand on wet paint. Nota cure all on a ramp like on flat surfaces but helps.
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Another option several of us have talked about and some have installed is a winch. It sounds silly but if the bike can't roll backwards and you have a cable pulling it in slowly it is fairly easy to control. Actually the winch idea was for other toys but it would work for a motorcycle too. Granted a bit sissy looking but hey at least the bike isn't dinged up......
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I would love a winch. Any idea where to get one?
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How far up is safe to raise the front?
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Old 05-15-2019, 10:35 AM   #9
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For the winch Harbor Freight.
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I do not have a toyhauler myself but yesterday, I saw a guy unload, by himself, his bike from the back of a pickup. Two factors struck me as his feet while on the bike could touch the ramp and bed of the truck and both hands on the handlebars at all times for balance. Ramps where pinned so that is done with a toyhauler door.

The other factor was the winch mounted on the front of the bed in the pickup on a special fabricated bracket. His wife controlled the pigtail to the winch and without starting the bike, slowly unloaded the bike without a waiver with the conclusion that he had done it many times before.

Can't wait to see it load. Think snowmobile winch, ATV winch, 1000lbs capacity. I would not think remote control winch would work as well as you cannot keep both hands on the bars. Mounting the winch high would pull better than mounted low as his connection on the bike was somewhere near his headlight.

Just a thought.
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Old 05-15-2019, 04:02 PM   #11
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I do not have a toyhauler myself but yesterday, I saw a guy unload, by himself, his bike from the back of a pickup. Two factors struck me as his feet while on the bike could touch the ramp and bed of the truck and both hands on the handlebars at all times for balance. Ramps where pinned so that is done with a toyhauler door.

The other factor was the winch mounted on the front of the bed in the pickup on a special fabricated bracket. His wife controlled the pigtail to the winch and without starting the bike, slowly unloaded the bike without a waiver with the conclusion that he had done it many times before.

Can't wait to see it load. Think snowmobile winch, ATV winch, 1000lbs capacity. I would not think remote control winch would work as well as you cannot keep both hands on the bars. Mounting the winch high would pull better than mounted low as his connection on the bike was somewhere near his headlight.

Just a thought.
Using a winch with a 2 wheeler is a safe way to load, just need a little planning & thought as the hight is important & also make sure to pull on the frame or triple tree, not the bars or forks. I would use a winch with a remote & mount it so you can operate it with your thumb just to the left of the throttle. There are a bunch of utube videos for some ideas. I would set up a wheel chock with a roller mounted in front of the winch, about 18" high & you could pull the bike right into the chock. Getting out of the chock can be tricky with a heavy bike if you do not have enough strength to back it out flat foot, you could mount a couple of angled wood blocks cut from a 6 x 6 so you could push back on a better angle. A while back there was a cargo buddy winch system for trucks & trailers, not sure if its still around but a little searching might turn one up. good luck.
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