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05-31-2005, 05:35 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Syracuse
Posts: 286
M.O.C. #1424
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Pure Power Tank Deoderizer
I tried this stuff, the green stuff, that says you only need 2 oz. WOW, my tank has never smelled worse. I typically use the Aqua Kem blue stuff, never had a problem with it at all, but I figured I would try the Pure Power, and man, i have to say, it STINKS.
Anyone else have any luck with this product?
I would recommend to stay away from it.
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05-31-2005, 05:53 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Jacksonville
Posts: 897
M.O.C. #1745
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We use Happy Camper produced right here in southern Oregon. It is the best stuff out there. We never have an odor problem and it inexpensive and safe to use. Everyone we have told about this product has changed to it. We do not have any financial interest in it. It is just a good product.
http://www.vehiclespecialty.com/campers.html
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06-01-2005, 02:21 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Aurora
Posts: 635
M.O.C. #1475
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Sorry that you have had such bad luck with Pure Power. We have been using it for a year with excellent results--including no smell in 95 degree heat. The usage included a week of 85 degree temps when we had six adults using the facilities. Did you follow the direction to add a small bit of bread in the tank when you put in the Pure Power but the tank will not be used for a while? The product needs to have something to "feed on" if it is going to work. The product came recommended to us by the local dealer which uses it to "degunk" tanks which have been neglected past the point of normal cleaning. We figured that that would be sufficient to keep our tanks clean and it has proven to be true for us. On last usage this weekend, the tanks ran clear after a normal dump and a few minutes post dump flush. We have a clear drain insert so we know that it worked. Sure hope that you have better luck if you are willing to try it again!!
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06-01-2005, 11:26 AM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: The Woodlands
Posts: 211
M.O.C. #2779
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We've read similar testimonials of Pure Power's prowess. We've been using it for about two months and have found it to be about as good as any other chemical. No better, no worse. We've also noticed a pretty stout odor when flushing the toilet for a long period (over 10 or 15 seconds) to add more water to the mix. On the other hand, can't say that the Wal-Mart house brand (Thetford, Campers Choice?) did any better. All in all, it appears that we need to be sure to have the toilet bowl valve open as little as possible. As this is a toilet in a fulltime rig, it is a primary waste disposal unit, and is probably doing as well as we can expect under the circumstances.
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06-01-2005, 03:48 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Tipton
Posts: 3,646
M.O.C. #191
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Our experience has been, the more water the better. Ya gotta dump more, but the more water, the less smell. We used NO chemicals, NONE for 2 months, very little smell, not what I would describe as "stout" tho. Also go easy on the TP, slightly used TP does not go in the toilet, but in the trash can (dumped every day).
Always a fun discussion, if you want to read more than you care to know, go to the Search feature!
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06-01-2005, 03:56 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: sioux falls
Posts: 1,835
M.O.C. #2121
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We've used Pure Power for about 4 years and have had good luck with it. On really hot days we just add an additional 2 oz. Since we are fulltimers our tank is sloshed and flushed regularly, so that may make a difference.
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06-01-2005, 05:03 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Aberdeen
Posts: 712
M.O.C. #7
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Since we have been fulltiming (9 months) we don't use the blue or green stuff regularily just plenty of water when flushing, after black tank dumping add a couple inches back into the black tank, a bucket of soapy water after cleaning jobs etc.
Since we have put a gate valve at the end of the 3" dump line just ahead of the end cap we have not used our tank flush feature. It always seemed like there wasn't enough water and preasure going back into the tank to do a good flush job. What we do instead is:
--After we dump the black tank we we leave the black tank dump valve open and close the gate valve that was added at the end of the line. We then open the grey water tank valve to let the grey water backflush into the black tank. By the sound it seems that about 1/2 the grey water surges into the black tank and loosens up a whole bunch of paper and other contents that was laying on the bottom. Then we close the grey water tank valve and open the end of line gate valve all the way. The clear plastic elbow then shows a lot of paper and other stuff draining out of the black tank. When that stops we open the greywater tank again to flush the line and then close the black tank valve while the grey water is still draining. This probably leaves an inch or so of soapy water in the bottom of the black tank. We add another couple gallons of water to the black tank as the starter for next time. Works and no major odor problems.
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06-01-2005, 06:47 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Oceanside
Posts: 20,028
M.O.C. #20
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Jim, that is a terrific idea. We also have the extra gate valve but I've not tried it your way. I plan to do so in the future, though. Thanks for a great idea.
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06-02-2005, 05:14 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Aberdeen
Posts: 712
M.O.C. #7
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Steve / Vickie,
Happy flushing. Nice to hear from you again.
CONSTRUCTION REPORT:
Finally got all our subs lined up. Have the rough lot grading done and the basement excavation. Hope to see the concrete work (basement) start in 10 days.
Hope to have our hookups in and move Monty out there in about 30 days.
Stop in when you traverse the north US again.
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06-02-2005, 08:12 AM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Onalaska
Posts: 276
M.O.C. #1666
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We use nothing but Calgon. No odor and the "Level Indicators" when emptied show "empty". Also, add a little Calgon to "Gray water" and "kitchen sink tank". This tip was given in the MOC forum some time ago, I think about July last year.
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06-05-2005, 07:13 PM
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Established Member
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Oshtemo
Posts: 34
M.O.C. #806
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We have been using the Borax solution lately (the last two outings) and our gages are working for the first time since we bought the coach (used)two years ago! Haven't seen Calgon in any of the local stores.
I also installed the extra valve at the end of the line and a tank flush kit in the blank tank, things are definitely looking better!
One thing I would like to see, and I have suggested it, is the Grey water tank above or higher than the black tank, with a valve from the low end of the Grey tank to the high end of the black tank. Save water and easier black tank maintenance!
Terry
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06-20-2005, 05:08 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location:
Posts: 1,502
M.O.C. #3142
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Can anyone tell me where to find the calgon water softner? I have looked at alot of Wal~Marts and they do not carry it. The Borax seems like it doesnt want to dissolve....or can you get that in a liquid?
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06-21-2005, 01:36 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Mayville
Posts: 629
M.O.C. #2486
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I also use borax mixed in a gallon of warm water and shake it up dump it in the toilet.I mix another gallon and pour half down into each grey tank. I then mix orange sented dish soap in a gallon of warm water .One full one down the toilet and half each in the grey water tanks. I do this before we leave a park or home base,sometimes I add a five or ten pound bag of ice cubes down the toilet when we hit the road. This acts as agitation to break up waste and tp.Its the build up in all the places in that holding tank that causes the odors.
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06-21-2005, 03:05 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Tipton
Posts: 3,646
M.O.C. #191
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campbud
Calgon water softener is sold in the laundry detergent area. They had it at Walmart last time I looked. You can get as a powder, or a liquid. I prefer the liquid in Montana. Personal thing, I don't like the thought of opening a box of powder and possibly having it spill out?? Or, having to find a sealed container to keep the powder in. So, I go lazy and use the liquid.
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06-21-2005, 12:11 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Oceanside
Posts: 20,028
M.O.C. #20
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Carol, how much liquid do you mix per gallon of water?
Thanks.
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06-21-2005, 12:55 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Tipton
Posts: 3,646
M.O.C. #191
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Steve,
We are very exact about this!
We open toilet, dump in some Calgon and dump in some liquid laundry soap and here and there dump in a LITTLE bit o bleach.
If I were guessing, I would say, ohhhhh, a cup of Calgon and cup of laundry soap, and maybe 1/3 cup bleach.
But, that is a WAG. And, I mean WILD! Don't do the bleach everytime. We were doing the Calgon and laundry soap ONLY when we were running, but after reading some fine testimonials here at MOC, we will probably dump some Calgon down each drain after each and every dump. The idea of it sitting there while the gray water fills for a few days sounds very smart to us, so we are gonna give it a try.
I have little faith that it will ever help those silly level lights read correctly, I am going for clean systems, and no odors!
So far, the little we have used the Calgon, laundry soap and bleach, we have been VERY happy with the results.
Carol
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06-28-2005, 07:54 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Cedar Rapids
Posts: 4,876
M.O.C. #1944
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We've tried almost everything that others have tried. But the best we've found is Snow Fresh. A powder that requires 1/4 cup per dump. Absolutely no odor that we've noticed coming back up the toilet. I do not sell this product. When I need it I order it.
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06-29-2005, 03:39 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Oceanside
Posts: 20,028
M.O.C. #20
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Thanks, Carol.
We found the Calgon Water Softener at the local Walmart Supercenter. It was on the bottom shelf in the laundry products section. Almost missed it.
Orv, what's this Snow Fresh? Do you have a link or more info?
thanks.
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07-02-2005, 04:44 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Cedar Rapids
Posts: 4,876
M.O.C. #1944
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Quote:
quote:Originally posted by sreigle
Thanks, Carol.
We found the Calgon Water Softener at the local Walmart Supercenter. It was on the bottom shelf in the laundry products section. Almost missed it.
Orv, what's this Snow Fresh? Do you have a link or more info?
thanks.
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Steve:
The link is www.snowfresh.com Unfortunately, I just checked and the website is under construction.So, I'll quote what the literature says: "Snow Fresh was developed with full time campers and boaters in mind. It offers odor control protection in all kinds of situations for folks who are concerned about the environmental and health impacts of using a known carcinogenic formaldehyde or paraformaldehyde product.
Our unique dual action formula is a combgination of five key natural ingredients, including a billion friendly bacteria in each scoop, that immediately begin to control odor by enhancing the natural breakdown of organic wastes while preventing septic odor when tanks are left for long periods of time.
There is no chemical odor or poisonous eye burning vapor to harm your health when treating your holding tanks or when dumping."
It's produced in 1# tub - $10; 3# tub -$25; 15# pail - $75. It's a granule and only takes 1/4 cup per dump (1/2 cup the first time used).
Thing we have really liked about (besides no odor) it is that it liquifies everything. I didn't believe it until I tried it. I buy it by the 15# pail. Costs $75 and shipping is free. I get it from Phil@snowfresh.com. Phone #888-396-1893, 828-688-1726
He is in Bakersville, NC. He ships it to me and I send him a check. Has worked great. I've been using it over 3 years now and still have over 10# left. I've even shared some with others who have gone on to purchase the product.
Note: I have no relationship to this guy, don't even know him.
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