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05-03-2016, 02:36 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: West Richland
Posts: 1,253
M.O.C. #17164
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I feel a lot more confident with my Trail Kings taken off and my 14 ply G series tires on. :-)
Having 500 plus pounds insurance at each tire and a higher speed rating is a good feeling.
Tom Marty
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06-22-2016, 11:50 AM
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Established Member
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: Harrison
Posts: 43
M.O.C. #17907
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Saw a guy at the gas station with Monty and Trailer Kings. I asked him if he'd heard the stories about those tires and he said no. So I informed him. He seemed a little put off and I told him to do an online search and he'd see for him self. Well, now he knows.
Can anybody do the math on how much Keystone saves per unit by installing Trailer Kings vs good tires (at their est cost) times the number of units they ship per year?? This would help me understand their motive. My guess is that is not its really not that much in light of the risk they are taking. Somebody at HQ needs to pull their head out and wake up!!!!!
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06-22-2016, 12:09 PM
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Established Member
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: Harrison
Posts: 43
M.O.C. #17907
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Quote:
quote:Originally posted by richfaa
NOt knowing is no excuse.
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I'm no lawyer but I remember something in my law class about implied warranty of merchantability which after referencing Wikipedia means the product has to be suited for its intended purposes from the reasonable usage of the consumer. Warning labels can't take it away!!!
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06-22-2016, 04:40 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: R
Posts: 261
M.O.C. #17922
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Has anyone used or know anything about Westlake Load range G tires? A local tire shop has a special on ST235/85R16 14PLY WESTLAKE CR960A ALL STEEL ST TRAILER TIRES. I know that I don't want Westlake Load range E tires but what about Load range G? These are just under half price of the G614 and I can't find a local tire shop that sells Saliuns.
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06-23-2016, 05:21 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Vancouver
Posts: 180
M.O.C. #11886
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Mr Pachu
If you are near a Kal Tire, they sell Sailuns, at least in the west.
-Steve
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06-30-2016, 04:31 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Oceanside
Posts: 534
M.O.C. #13378
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Junk ANY ST tires and replace them with name brand LT tires.
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06-30-2016, 05:11 AM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: Clermont
Posts: 289
M.O.C. #17920
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Quote:
quote:Originally posted by Mr Pachu
Has anyone used or know anything about Westlake Load range G tires? A local tire shop has a special on ST235/85R16 14PLY WESTLAKE CR960A ALL STEEL ST TRAILER TIRES. I know that I don't want Westlake Load range E tires but what about Load range G? These are just under half price of the G614 and I can't find a local tire shop that sells Saliuns.
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We were in Savannah,GA when I needed to replace them and I called Sailun customer service off the website for a local dealer/distributor. They shipped tires to the dealer and had them installed the next day.
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06-30-2016, 10:30 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Box Elder
Posts: 4,697
M.O.C. #12947
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At our Western Region Rally, the Keystone sales rep, Chase Booth, told us, among other things, that all new Montana's are going to start coming with G range tires. I guess all the complaints have finally gotten through to the Montana group at Keystone. I'm thinking that will be for the 2017 model year rigs.
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2012 3402RL
2012 Chevy 2500HD D/A CC 4WD
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07-04-2016, 02:12 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Hagerstown
Posts: 866
M.O.C. #16013
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quote:Originally posted by rohrmann
At our Western Region Rally, the Keystone sales rep, Chase Booth, told us, among other things, that all new Montana's are going to start coming with G range tires. I guess all the complaints have finally gotten through to the Montana group at Keystone. I'm thinking that will be for the 2017 model year rigs.
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Will that be G rated China bombs?
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2018.5 3791 Rear Den Montana, on the lake  no 3rd A/C, Mini Split, just do it
Electric Brakes  ..... Disk Brakes, it`s the only way
F350 Ford Dually 4:10`s w/bags (payload 5595 lbs) Sumo Springs 63 gal aux tank
Reese Goosebox Mor/Ryde SRE 4000 X Factors Monroe shocks.... real smooth ride
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07-04-2016, 04:48 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Sebring
Posts: 3,659
M.O.C. #9969
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Probably the "G" rated Westlakes that some other Thor Brands are using. Friends so far have a few thousand miles on their Westlakes with no problems, and it's a fairly heavy 5er.
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2018 Chevy 3500HD High Country DRW 4X4 Crew Cab w/Duramax/Allison, Formally 2010 Montana 2955RL, Now Loaded 2016 SOB, Mor/ryde IS, Disc Brakes & Pin Box, Comfort Ride Hitch, Sailun 17.5 Tires.
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07-04-2016, 06:25 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: STAYTON
Posts: 1,118
M.O.C. #18157
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Quote:
quote:Originally posted by rohrmann
At our Western Region Rally, the Keystone sales rep, Chase Booth, told us, among other things, that all new Montana's are going to start coming with G range tires. I guess all the complaints have finally gotten through to the Montana group at Keystone. I'm thinking that will be for the 2017 model year rigs.
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I hope you're not holding your breath..You'll likely turn mighty blue before that happens.
Mark
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07-11-2016, 11:59 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Fayetteville
Posts: 4,200
M.O.C. #11401
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We are very pleased with our last two sets of G614s. The peace of mind is worth the price , IMHO.
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07-23-2016, 12:50 PM
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Seasoned Camper
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Kernersville
Posts: 86
M.O.C. #13857
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Well, one of my Chinese Goodyear Marathons EXPLODED on the way home from the beach today, did considerable damage to the side that I'm hoping my insurance will cover. These tires are parked under a shed always, have less than 2000 miles on them and we had just stopped for a break and none of them felt unusually hot considering it was 94 outside. So you folks are saying even though Goodyear makes the junk supplied on these trailers, the tire to buy is a Goodyear G614? Any other good options? My trailer only weighs about 13,500 lbs.
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07-23-2016, 01:31 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Lake Havasu City AZ.
Posts: 1,811
M.O.C. #10552
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Well a 2013 rig more likely built in 2012 may have 5 year old tires on it. Plus the transport driver drove well over the 65 mph cap on these tires. Most people don't know these tires should not be run over 65 mph. The very first thing when I bought my rig is tow it 7 miles to a Discount tire dealer and replace the trail King tires with LT tires.
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Wayne and Ann Moore
2015 Ford F-350 King Ranch
Firestone air bags, bed saver.
Add 40 GAL tank in bed.
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07-23-2016, 05:24 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Livermore
Posts: 5,144
M.O.C. #1920
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When you look at an RV lot, what do comparable brands come with as tires? Our dealer could order with G rated tires, but they don't. Most new 5th wheel owners and most dealers are clueless. My guess is if Montana stocked the lot with G614 tires on their rigs, they would lose a significant portion of their sales. Look at the number of people who post "I knew the story, but I thought I could get by". When we got our first Montana, it came with Marathons, but they were made in the U.S. The next one came with Carlisle. The first one blew between Goshen and south of Milwaukee while being delivered. We learned about G series tires on that second Montana. #3 left the factory with G614's. We were clueless when we bought our first Montana. Over the years we've learned a ton, thanks to the members here.
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2021Montana 3230CK Super Solar Legacy Package
2021 Ram 3500 Laramie Longhorn, BIM Charging
4x4, SRW, LB, Crew Cab, Pullrite 3900 Hitch
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07-25-2016, 03:47 PM
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Seasoned Camper
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Kernersville
Posts: 86
M.O.C. #13857
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Quote:
quote:Originally posted by waynemoore
Well a 2013 rig more likely built in 2012 may have 5 year old tires on it. Plus the transport driver drove well over the 65 mph cap on these tires. Most people don't know these tires should not be run over 65 mph. The very first thing when I bought my rig is tow it 7 miles to a Discount tire dealer and replace the trail King tires with LT tires.
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Rig was built in early 2013, these tires look brand new, no cracks, no damage and garaged when it is at home. NO tire built by a "reputable" manufacturer should explode with less than 3000 miles on it, even if it is 3 years old. Now I'm out $500 deductible for repairs and about $1200 for new tires. Goodyear and Keystone should be ashamed for allowing this product to be on their expensive 5th wheels....
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07-25-2016, 04:07 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: purvis
Posts: 168
M.O.C. #13723
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Farmall,
Give the guys at Goodyear property damage claims office a call and file a claim. 1-800-322-4682
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07-25-2016, 06:37 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Lake Havasu City AZ.
Posts: 1,811
M.O.C. #10552
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Built in early 2013 makes no difference the tires have a date on them and you can be sure that was 2012. Makes them 4 plus to 5 years old. Milage has very little to do with anything. As stated before on the forum a lot of tire dealers will not rotate tires that are 5 years old. The transport driver could and I asure you he did run them well over 65 and low on air you just don't know. The best way to protect your rig from damage is to put descent safe tires on it. I followed the advice the other members on here and only drove 7 miles from the dealer to a Discount Tire Dealer and had new dated LT tires installed. Traded in the new Trail King tires for credit on the new Bridgestone LT Tires. In early 2019 they will be replaced and I don't care how good they look.
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Wayne and Ann Moore
2015 Ford F-350 King Ranch
Firestone air bags, bed saver.
Add 40 GAL tank in bed.
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07-26-2016, 09:22 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Oceanside
Posts: 534
M.O.C. #13378
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ST tires should be banned from all of our Montanas. They are dangerous, and in my case have caused thousands of dollars worth of damage to my last two rigs.
The last time I had a problem with my tires was few months after buying my current Monte in 2013. Coming home from Kingman AZ one exploded and fortunately did no damage. But I changed the tire and immediately headed by to Kingman and purchased four LT tires that met my criteria.
Since that day I have not had ONE IOTA of tire problems. And I've driven my rig over 50,000 miles!
Live and learn.
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08-01-2016, 04:00 PM
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New Member
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Oswego
Posts: 7
M.O.C. #17681
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Was just told that my trailer won't pass inspection because tires are dry rotted. We bought the rig 3 years ago and it has the original Missions on it. It is a 2006 2670RL! These are trailer tires but load range E. I'm on my way to find tires now. Thanks for all the info. I think I beat Murphy on this one - learning from you folks rather than from a blowout. Thanks again folks!
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