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Old 04-22-2019, 11:15 AM   #1
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Truck 3500 SRW vs DRW

Need your opinion:

We drive a Dodge Ram SB CC 3500 Diesel 4wd SRW

We want to purchase a 41' Montana

Our concerns are:.

Is our SRW ok or do we need to put a dually kit on it?

We see 50/50 on the highways pulling the 41' Rvs...SRW/DRW
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Old 04-22-2019, 11:22 AM   #2
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Check the towing capacity of the SRW and make sure the new rig fits inside the specifications. Personal opinion, if you're not within the specs for both pin weight (GVWR) and tow capacity, you're asking for trouble on several fronts.


Beyond that, I love our DRW. Towing across NM in February in high winds was very stable. I don't think it would have been as pleasant in a SRW tow vehicle.
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Old 04-22-2019, 11:30 AM   #3
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Depends on how you plan on using it. Full time? Loaded out to its GVWR? Then consider a dually especially if the math tells you need it. If you are only going to carry a 1000 lbs of gear for weekend trips or non full time RVing... you might be able to get away with the SRW. Converting a SRW to DRW? That's new one to me... certainly doable but it seems rather expensive when you can get it from the factory already configured and warranteed.

Having said all that, you'll get argument from both sides... let the SRW DRW war begin again...

We have a 3500 DRW and are looking at 3810/3811MS (40+ feet) I would not consider anything less than a dually.
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Old 04-22-2019, 11:38 AM   #4
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If the loaded pin weight plus the weight of people, fuel, and “stuff” you carry in the truck exceeds the payload rating of the SRW then you NEED a DRW. If not, then it is a matter of do you want a DRW or SRW.

And don’t let anyone lie to you. A DRW is more of a pain as a daily driver.
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Old 04-22-2019, 11:38 AM   #5
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I have a 2018 F350 SRW long bed 6.7 Diesel. I pull a 40ft ,6 slideout 5er with no issues. New Super Duties have higher payload and towing capabilities. No issues with wind either.
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Old 04-22-2019, 11:44 AM   #6
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Pull the camper when you get it. If you like the way it handles and pulls and you feel safe, drive it. If not then decide what you wont to do. No need to spend a lot of time and money for nothing.
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Old 04-22-2019, 12:14 PM   #7
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If your RAM has the puck system and you would go to a RAM dually if needed.

Then saddle up your Monty, and load her up and then hit the scales. Then decide if you need to go to a dually.

We went dually because we exceeded the GVWR of a 1T SRW.

The folks that come to the rally and weigh trucks and Monty's will tell you over 50% of the folks towing are overweight. (towing overweight).
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Old 04-22-2019, 01:21 PM   #8
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You mentioned a “dually kit” no matter what it will not change the yellow sticker on the door post. That’s what you should be going by.
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Old 04-22-2019, 01:26 PM   #9
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Ok, here's the one thing everyone tends to miss. No matter what your truck says on the door you may not be able to buy tires to meet those specs. That's the reason we have a dually. The Weight always came in fine, but a sidewall buldge and a broken bead caused me to question what we were doing. Checked the wheel weight with what the tires said and got the dually.
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Old 04-22-2019, 01:30 PM   #10
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Dick your correct! Tires (19.5)and bigger brakes are what sold me on an F 450
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Old 04-22-2019, 01:34 PM   #11
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Don't let anyone's opinion influence your decision. Let the numbers speak for it self. I have had both single and double wheel and have had strong cross winds with both and they both did very well. There is a difference in feeling safe and being safe.
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Old 04-22-2019, 01:56 PM   #12
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and off to the races

[B][/BI speak from lots of experience from both sides. I had a late model SRW diesel pulling a 35 foot Montana HC and it did just fine, was at the max and just a little over on payload with all the junk I carry even had a 37 gal. Aux. fuel tank that put it over payload when full but it pull steady enough for me after I put air bags on it. Ease of use after towing was a big plus and the wife would drive and give me a break once in a while. ( still can`t get her to pull the camper).
Then after the Hershey Rv show (RV shows can be dangerous to your wallet) I got a wild hair and went out and bought a new Rear Den Montana. It is much heavier and longer and after a couple of trips I did notice it was a little squirmy in high winds even with new tires. So after about 32 seconds of thought I went out and bought a 350 Dually and I must say it pulls much steadier and trucks passing and high winds do not push you around like before. More bed space, a much higher payload I`m at 5595 lbs at my trim level. The new trucks are much quieter inside. The motor Dieseling sound is almost gone. The wife says she feels much safer riding in the truck when towing.
The down side is a much harsher ride when unloaded and you really need to park in the satellite parking areas if you don`t want the plus size white head in her roller skate car clipping your rear fenders pulling into parking spaces. No drive thru`s or car washes. Maybe others will but my wife won`t drive it, young bucks in their jacked up diesel trucks with big tires want to race you, the others gun their engines at you at traffic lights, young females will smile at you more. The cost will be Mid 70`s and your insurance will go up. Some companies will classify it as commercial and then it really goes up. Some HOA`s will NOT let you park a Dually on the street. I had to push the back of my garage out 2` so it would fit in.
But all in all I would NOT pull the new 41` beasts with a SRW after trying it for a time.
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Old 04-22-2019, 04:45 PM   #14
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Dually all the way. bshgto described my experience perfectly. I'd rather have more than enough versus wishing I needed a upgrade.
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Old 04-22-2019, 07:27 PM   #15
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[B][/BI speak from lots of experience from both sides. I had a late model SRW diesel pulling a 35 foot Montana HC and it did just fine, was at the max and just a little over on payload with all the junk I carry even had a 37 gal. Aux. fuel tank that put it over payload when full but it pull steady enough for me after I put air bags on it. Ease of use after towing was a big plus and the wife would drive and give me a break once in a while. ( still can`t get her to pull the camper).
Then after the Hershey Rv show (RV shows can be dangerous to your wallet) I got a wild hair and went out and bought a new Rear Den Montana. It is much heavier and longer and after a couple of trips I did notice it was a little squirmy in high winds even with new tires. So after about 32 seconds of thought I went out and bought a 350 Dually and I must say it pulls much steadier and trucks passing and high winds do not push you around like before. More bed space, a much higher payload I`m at 5595 lbs at my trim level. The new trucks are much quieter inside. The motor Dieseling sound is almost gone. The wife says she feels much safer riding in the truck when towing.
The down side is a much harsher ride when unloaded and you really need to park in the satellite parking areas if you don`t want the plus size white head in her roller skate car clipping your rear fenders pulling into parking spaces. No drive thru`s or car washes. Maybe others will but my wife won`t drive it, young bucks in their jacked up diesel trucks with big tires want to race you, the others gun their engines at you at traffic lights, young females will smile at you more. The cost will be Mid 70`s and your insurance will go up. Some companies will classify it as commercial and then it really goes up. Some HOA`s will NOT let you park a Dually on the street. I had to push the back of my garage out 2` so it would fit in.
But all in all I would NOT pull the new 41` beasts with a SRW after trying it for a time.
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This from a guy who has owned BOTH. That should speak volumes!!!! Until you have owned and towed with BOTH your not qualified to offer advice on this subject!!
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Have pulled with both. Won’t go back to a SRW unless I stop towing.
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Dually all the way. bshgto described my experience perfectly. I'd rather have more than enough versus wishing I needed a upgrade.
My thoughts exactly. Get a little more than you need just to be sure. That way you don't waste $50K or so on a truck that you don't feel comfortable with.

If you need a every daily driver buy a small car. Less miles on the high $$ tow vehicle, better fuel mileage, lower maintaince and you can park it right up at the front door of the gym you obviously need to visit if you can't walk the extra few feet from where you would have parked the dually....

This really is my favorite subject on here LOL
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My thoughts exactly. Get a little more than you need just to be sure. That way you don't waste $50K or so on a truck that you don't feel comfortable with.

If you need a every daily driver buy a small car. Less miles on the high $$ tow vehicle, better fuel mileage, lower maintaince and you can park it right up at the front door of the gym you obviously need to visit if you can't walk the extra few feet from where you would have parked the dually....

This really is my favorite subject on here LOL
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Old 04-23-2019, 06:29 AM   #19
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skip, after all the input above, you have the truck, use it. pull and enjoy the trailer. at some point you may be interested in getting another truck. don't lose any sleep over this issue.
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Old 04-23-2019, 07:09 AM   #20
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I pull the 3700LK that is 43' (measured it 4 x's) and we pulled it once with a 3500 CC SRW and never again. I had a duramax CC and the 3700LK put me over my payload before hooking up, I only had a 2350 payload and the monty's pin weight is over 2400 empty. Once we added passengers to the truck, hitch, I was over and I just didn't feel safe in it.

If you can just buy a DRW or get a liter fifth wheel. I've pulled with both a SRW and a DRW and with the Monty and their pin weight, the DRW is the way to go, and not only from a legal standpoint but from a stability standpoint as well. I use my DRW as a daily driver and the ride is no different then my SRW was. These Monty's will put you over your payload on a SRW, and for those that say "Just add airbags" are clueless and don't care about their safety or others. In most cases the DRW and the SRW are the same price.
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