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09-03-2019, 10:35 AM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: Virginia Beach
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M.O.C. #23051
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No power to outlets in half of camper
2019 MHC331RL
Power at Campground pedestal is good with 50 amp service
Batteries have checked good but don’t seem to be charging correctly on shore power
Inverter will run fridge until batteries get down
Biggest problem we have is no power to elec outlets in back half of camper
Have unplugged to try a reset but not worked
12volt lights all work
Just no power at outlets to fridge, micro, outlets in rear and both slides
Breakers not Tripped
GFI not tripped
Any ideas?
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09-03-2019, 10:40 AM
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Montana Master
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Location: North Ridgeville
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Check both legs of the 50 amp service it sound like on leg is out
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10-20-2022, 12:22 AM
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Established Member
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What do you mean both legs sorry im a newbie
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10-20-2022, 02:31 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Dec 2021
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M.O.C. #30262
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50 Amp Meter Checks
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Originally Posted by Fabcin23
What do you mean both legs sorry im a newbie
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You have to check each leg of the 50 amp service. Each leg should be + 120 vac Line 1 to neutral as well as + 120 vac Line 2 to neutral. Alternatively you should read + 240 vac from Line 1 to Line 2.
In the attached jpg the lines are referred to as "Hot 1 and Hot 2". You can also see these lines commonly referred to as L1 and L2.
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09-03-2019, 10:43 AM
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Montana Master
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Yep what richfaa said. Been there.
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09-03-2019, 11:23 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: Bastrop
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How did you check pedestal and breakers?
Breakers can be tripped and not show it?
try tripping main breaker. could be one side is tripped.
check power cord.
Check main power receptacle for loose wires
where is your surge/EMS plugged in at?
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09-03-2019, 11:30 AM
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Montana Master
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On the breakers, don’t just trip and reset, but fully push them beyond off and then back on. Some breakers will not reset if tripped and this is not done.
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09-03-2019, 01:07 PM
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Montana Master
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09-03-2019, 01:31 PM
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Montana Master
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Location: Kansas City, Missouri
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I agree, sounds like you have lost one leg. A volt/ohm meter will sure help in trouble shooting from the pedestal all the way in to the 5'er breaker panel.
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09-03-2019, 02:34 PM
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Montana Fan
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Location: Virginia Beach
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T ester both legs of 50 amp at pole with volt meter. Both read 123 volts. Will check breakers again.
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09-03-2019, 03:52 PM
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Montana Fan
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One additional note. I left our inverter on for about four hours after plugging in. Did I cause this?
What would that do?
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09-03-2019, 06:15 PM
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Montana Master
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I don't know about the inverter. Wouldn't think it would cause the problem. If by pole you mean the campground pedestal, get in the breaker box inside your 5'er and with your meter insure you have voltage on both legs. Half your breakers will be on one leg and half on the other. There are a whole lot of places between the pedestal and the panel inside the 5'er where power can be lost.
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09-03-2019, 07:32 PM
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Seasoned Camper
Join Date: Jul 2018
Location: Vacaville
Posts: 81
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It's acting like the same electrical problem I had
The symptoms are the same as I encountered....
Thanks BB_TX for sending the link to the posting I put on the Forum.
Vet4jdc: If you're going to check the terminations on the main inlet (female) socket, you'll need to remove it from the exterior wall. However, it's worth noting that before I removed the socket assembly from the back end of my 5er I could see evidence of arcing: brownish discoloration around the bad power prong. It's kind of subtle: any brown discoloration around a prong would be a good reason to remove the socket assembly, take it apart, and check the terminations. Check to make sure the wire insulation (on all 4 of the wires) is not under its respective clamp - the result of having been inserted too far into the clamp assembly. That's what I discovered...
Good Luck -
Steve
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09-03-2019, 07:56 PM
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Montana Master
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Location: New Bern
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Check both ends of your power cord and not just with a voltmeter. If you have a chance to borrow another cord to try, do that. You could have a bad connection in the cord that a meter won't pick up.
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09-03-2019, 08:53 PM
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Established Member
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If you have a 30 amp dogbone adapter you could plug it into the pedestal to see if outlets come back on. If they do, then the problem is one dead leg at pedestal.
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09-04-2019, 01:26 PM
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Montana Fan
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Thanks to this awesome forum, we are fixed. It was a bad connection on one leg of the 50 amp AT the camper connection where the cord plugs in. I had tried everything but not considered the plug on the camper. Thanks ti all.
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09-05-2019, 05:50 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2015
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I know you are all fixed up but its common for the wire connections in the panel to become loose over time or from the factory. Its a good idea (with all power disconnected) to remove the panel cover and tighten all the lugs every so often.
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09-11-2022, 07:16 PM
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New Member
Join Date: Sep 2022
Location: Naples
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My Fix
I had the same issue, I had power to all the front and rear outlets and to frig and microwave but no outlets in bathroom, rest of kitchen and LR side of kitchen wall. I was about to check if one leg of my power was out, and found the GFI outlet was tripped in the bathroom. That killed power to the middle section of my Montana 3710. Glad to find an easy fix without even having to step outside! This could be one item to check if you are having the same symptions.
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10-20-2022, 02:37 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Dec 2021
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Vet4jdc
Thanks to this awesome forum, we are fixed. It was a bad connection on one leg of the 50 amp AT the camper connection where the cord plugs in. I had tried everything but not considered the plug on the camper. Thanks ti all.
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I've read of this issue way too many times here as of late. I'm thinking I might as well do a preemptive strike and pull my incoming receptacle as well to ensure it is terminated correctly and all the connections are tight...
Added: Ricks900 I see where this was your first post. Welcome to the MOC family. Lots of great folks here with an amazing amount of experience of knowledge for when you have questions...
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Lee, Edith, Lil' Bit & Cuddles
22 MHC 331RL, Surge Guard 35550, SumoSprings, Kodiak disc brakes, 412Ah Lithium, Gen 3 Goosebox, Sailun 85s
22 Ram 3500 CC DRW 6.7 CTD Herrin Hauler Classic Bed, 45 gal AUX tank
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10-20-2022, 05:38 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Kansas City, Missouri
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lee-CI
I've read of this issue way too many times here as of late. I'm thinking I might as well do a preemptive strike and pull my incoming receptacle as well to ensure it is terminated correctly and all the connections are tight...
Added: Ricks900 I see where this was your first post. Welcome to the MOC family. Lots of great folks here with an amazing amount of experience of knowledge for when you have questions...
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Lee-CI While checking the incoming receptacle you should check the plug on your power cord, trailer end. Several of us have found loose lugs there.
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