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11-27-2014, 03:04 AM
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leveling
I am thinking of installing either the level up system or the electric ground control system on my Montana. I was wondering if anyone knows the pros and cons of each system. Any information would be helpful. Thanks
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11-27-2014, 03:34 AM
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Montana Fan
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Location: Broken Arrow
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we have the level up system on our new 2014 montana 3625re it was new to us but love the simplicity of the system unhook and auto level in 1 minute and your done.
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11-27-2014, 03:45 AM
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Montana Master
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M.O.C. #13157
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I have the level up system. I have no actual experience with the Ground Control, but I will offer my thoughts.
The ground control system has a electric motor at each jack. That would mean 6 electric motors. The Level Up system has one electric motor.
The ground control jacks are what we used 15 years ago on the front landing legs. You have to drop the leg pads by hand and then lower the jacks. It shows the leg stabilized by the JT Strong Arm. More bending over to mess with it. Realize the electric motor turns a gear that in turn causes a screw to cause the jack to move. These gears require lubing, which will probably not be done.
I remember how slow the electric jacks moved, knowing how fast my system works, I would never consider it.
The Level Up system is the next generation of jacks. Other than wiping the piston legs with a clean rag and applying a bit of spray lube, they are almost maintenance free.
Pricing is probably less with the ground control, but If spending that much, a bit more just makes sense to get, what in my opinion would be a better system.
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2012 Ram Laramie 3500 DRW 4x4 3.73 Tow Max Pkg B&W Companion 60 gal RDS aux fuel tank. 2014 Montana 3150RL, 2 A/C's, Leather, 6 Point Jacks, Splendede WD2100XC, Mor/ryde X-Factor, Duravis 250 tires with TST 507RV monitors. 2 x Honda EU2000's
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11-27-2014, 04:05 AM
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Site Team
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I fully agree. You won't want to get one and then wish you had the other. Way too many satisfied customers with level-up, in my opinion, to risk a substitute.
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2017 3720 RL, and 2013 HC 343RL
Pullrite Hitch, IS, Disk Brakes, 3rd AC, Winegard Traveler, Bathroom door mod, Dometic 320, couch for desk swap, replaced chairs, sun screens, added awnings, etc.
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11-27-2014, 04:37 AM
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Montana Master
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Agree, the LCI is great.
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2002 3655 FL, 2005 3650RK
2010 3665RE, 2015 3910FB
F350 crew cab dually 6.7
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11-27-2014, 06:23 AM
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M.O.C. #13435
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Thanks for your input the next question does anyone install the level up system in or around the Buffalo or Cleveland area? Thanks
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11-27-2014, 06:30 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Midlothian
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Some Camping Worlds are approved to do the install. You would need to call them and find which ones do.
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11-27-2014, 06:53 AM
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Montana Master
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M.O.C. #13157
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2012 Ram Laramie 3500 DRW 4x4 3.73 Tow Max Pkg B&W Companion 60 gal RDS aux fuel tank. 2014 Montana 3150RL, 2 A/C's, Leather, 6 Point Jacks, Splendede WD2100XC, Mor/ryde X-Factor, Duravis 250 tires with TST 507RV monitors. 2 x Honda EU2000's
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11-27-2014, 07:23 AM
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Since you are in the Buffalo/Cleveland area(which is still quite an area), why not just head down I-80 and Go to Lippert themselves and have the pros install it! At least if there is a problem you can then blame the head company! While at the Fall Rally over the past three or four years now there have been a lot of the MOC members that have had the Level Up system put on. A lot of the newer rigs coming out now have the Level Up system installed and come out of the factory with it on them. If you're not snowed in and can get your unit out and on the road that is the way to go, IMHO!
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11-27-2014, 07:49 AM
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Site Team
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Also, if you bring it to the Fall rally and have it done then, for the last number of years they've had a Rally special that saved you hundreds of dollars.
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2017 3720 RL, and 2013 HC 343RL
Pullrite Hitch, IS, Disk Brakes, 3rd AC, Winegard Traveler, Bathroom door mod, Dometic 320, couch for desk swap, replaced chairs, sun screens, added awnings, etc.
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11-27-2014, 02:01 PM
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Montana Master
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M.O.C. #13157
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OR just trade that one in for one with one with it installed from the "factory"
Adding a 5K option does not add 5K to the value of a used 5th.
The 2014 price list shows the list price of a 6pt level up as $3,475. Figure 40% off list, where you actually buy these things that is $2,085 for what it costs if you buy a new trailer.
Just a thought.
Jim
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2012 Ram Laramie 3500 DRW 4x4 3.73 Tow Max Pkg B&W Companion 60 gal RDS aux fuel tank. 2014 Montana 3150RL, 2 A/C's, Leather, 6 Point Jacks, Splendede WD2100XC, Mor/ryde X-Factor, Duravis 250 tires with TST 507RV monitors. 2 x Honda EU2000's
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11-28-2014, 12:13 PM
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Montana Master
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Quote:
quote:Originally posted by jlb27537
OR just trade that one in for one with one with it installed from the "factory"
Adding a 5K option does not add 5K to the value of a used 5th.
The 2014 price list shows the list price of a 6pt level up as $3,475. Figure 40% off list, where you actually buy these things that is $2,085 for what it costs if you buy a new trailer.
Just a thought.
Jim
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Jim,
I like your logic but if the current rig is paid for and it's in good shape, 5k is not a bad deal. It would cost us over $23k to get a new one. Not in the cards.
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2010 3150RL
LevelUp, Dual 6 volt batteries, Progressive Industries EMS HW50C, Honda EU2000i Generator, Bridgestone Duravis R250 tires, Torklift Glowstep Revolution Stairs, LED Tail lights
2015 RAM 3500 Laramie SRW LB CC Cummins 6.7L Aisin Trans B&W RVK3600
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11-29-2014, 01:03 AM
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Montana Master
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Location: Madison
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Our Big Sky came with the Lippert auto level system. Love it and will not buy another rig without it.
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11-29-2014, 03:49 PM
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Location: Fallbrook
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I bought the Lippert Ground Control for $2350.00 FOB the house. Installed it myself and I very happy with the results. It was easy to install took me 9 hours to R&R the front install the control module and install the rear jacks. As to speed it is twice as fast as the old front legs I removed. The people at Dyers.com were very helpful with the order.
As to why I did Lippert. After setting up my 2012 3400RL in May 2014 in South Lake Tahoe in the snow and rain I decided I need help setting up. We couldn't afford the $5-6K for 6point hyd. I didn't want hydraulics as the cylinders do leak Internally after a few years and rebuilding them is a pain. The electric jack is reliable and they work for me.
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12-06-2014, 03:32 AM
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I cant thank everyone enough for all the advice and information. The problem is I am still confused as to trade or retrofit. Not a bad problem
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12-06-2014, 04:15 AM
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Montana Master
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Simple answer: If you really love what you have and don't want to give it, install the upgrade. If you can find fault with what you have and have seen something you like better, upgrade RVs making sure it includes the Level-Up
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2018 Chevy 3500HD High Country DRW 4X4 Crew Cab w/Duramax/Allison, Formally 2010 Montana 2955RL, Now Loaded 2016 SOB, Mor/ryde IS, Disc Brakes & Pin Box, Comfort Ride Hitch, Sailun 17.5 Tires.
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