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08-19-2012, 03:13 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Bonita Springs
Posts: 1,943
M.O.C. #6977
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Montana slips to # 2 position
Well I was told by a big Montana Dealer yesterday that Montana sliped to # 2 position behind Cougar. I can see why. Keystone is building the Cougar to the spects of the Montana but its shorter and cheeper. It fits the young and those are the people that are buying more units. They have been 1st now for 2 months. not a long period but something to watch. I think Montana should expand the line down to the 30' units that are so popular today
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08-19-2012, 03:28 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Troy
Posts: 1,980
M.O.C. #808
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John, we saw a lot of Big Horns when we traveled out west and back. Lots of them on the road too.
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08-19-2012, 04:43 PM
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Site Team
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Wilsey
Posts: 18,799
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2017 3720 RL, and 2013 HC 343RL
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08-19-2012, 07:03 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Santa Fe Springs
Posts: 4,189
M.O.C. #639
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I have seen a lot of other Keystone RV's out there and some do look prity good, and some I think would look good hooked up to my TV. but I got a montana and I am happy with it, along with its durability and decore. I will want to see how long Cougar holds the number one position, and then hold the two charts together and look at the peaks and valleys. 
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Pulling a 2004, 2980 RL an oldie but goodie.
Tow vehicle is a 2009 RED RAM 3500 DRW.
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08-20-2012, 01:33 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Fayetteville
Posts: 4,200
M.O.C. #11401
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It is my understanding that they are both #1 in their catagory. By that I mean price range. It has been that way for some time.
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08-20-2012, 02:50 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Essex
Posts: 1,123
M.O.C. #6880
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Last year at the Fall Rally we were told that Aram was also incharge of the Cougar line. Aram also told us that the Cougar was like a mini Montana.
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08-20-2012, 03:00 AM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Adirondack
Posts: 367
M.O.C. #10754
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We traded up to the Montana from a Couger. It was a large improvement in quality in my opinion. The Cougar was very nice but lighter built and not the same quality cabinets, fittings and furnishings. We liked it a lot but like the Montana more.
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08-20-2012, 05:23 AM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: BEND
Posts: 350
M.O.C. #11243
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We also moved up from a Cougar to Montana. We wanted more room and a full size bed. Just looked at the new Cougars and they are making them much nicer, I still like being able to stand up in the bedroom, new Cougars still don't offer that feature for tall people.
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08-20-2012, 05:33 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: North Ridgeville
Posts: 20,229
M.O.C. #2839
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We have said this before. We see many, many Cougers on the road and we thought that the Couger was # 1 a long time ago but sales numbers tell the tale.
Montana and many other brands in that price range have got more expensive and way more heavier over the years and the Couger is a well built affordable 5th wheel that can be pulled with a 1/2 ton truck.
The Couger is a good choice for the weekender
Just my opinion many of the mid level brands are pricing them selves out of the market and we can observe that they are,including Montana making more lighter weight models.
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08-20-2012, 06:08 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Wylie
Posts: 532
M.O.C. #9139
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I remember while doing the PDI on 3400 back in 2009 there was a Everest with the same floor plan also in PDI. Big different in dry weight, carrying capacity, storage, decor and finish. They look similar on the surface but that is about it.
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08-20-2012, 07:09 AM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Rising Fawn
Posts: 353
M.O.C. #11268
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I'd consider a Cougar, but that's the last logo a single woman traveling alone wants plastered all over her fiver!
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08-20-2012, 07:32 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Livingston
Posts: 1,150
M.O.C. #12333
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Quote:
quote:Originally posted by patbarton
I'd consider a Cougar, but that's the last logo a single woman traveling alone wants plastered all over her fiver!
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Imagine the fun the 18 wheelers would have as you passed them down the highway???
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08-20-2012, 07:50 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Land O Lakes
Posts: 2,783
M.O.C. #10246
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Our Montana continues to be #1 in our book!
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08-20-2012, 08:02 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Englewood
Posts: 3,095
M.O.C. #164
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I think this has a lot to do with Keystone no longer making the 2880 and 2955RL.the smaller units
2955RL was the most popular coach not so many years ago I thinking these buyers are going over to Cougar where a 3/4 HD will get the job done
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08-20-2012, 08:20 AM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: SW
Posts: 255
M.O.C. #7895
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A Cougar vs Montana comparison is an apples to oranges comparision. That's like comparing a Honda to an Acura or a Toyota to a Lexus.
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08-20-2012, 08:45 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Livingston
Posts: 1,150
M.O.C. #12333
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JMHO but I think If I were Keystone who ranks #1 or #2 should not matter in the grand scheme of things.....making sure that their product is produced at the highest quality you can buy should be....If that end of the business falls in line so does everything else!
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08-20-2012, 12:28 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Harford
Posts: 948
M.O.C. #7122
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I wish they would bring back the 2980RL!!
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08-20-2012, 02:50 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Sebring
Posts: 3,659
M.O.C. #9969
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Well I frequent the Keystone Forum and you should read all the problems many of those Cougar owers are having, like the bedroom window falling out while going down the highway. Montanas may have some problems, some more than others, but nothing comparied to the Cougar and Outback folks.
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2018 Chevy 3500HD High Country DRW 4X4 Crew Cab w/Duramax/Allison, Formally 2010 Montana 2955RL, Now Loaded 2016 SOB, Mor/ryde IS, Disc Brakes & Pin Box, Comfort Ride Hitch, Sailun 17.5 Tires.
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08-20-2012, 03:29 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Baton Rouge
Posts: 431
M.O.C. #11342
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moved
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08-20-2012, 04:46 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Burney
Posts: 107
M.O.C. #11789
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Here's how to tell quality from crap. Look at the hardware in the drawers. The Cougars are junk. The Montanas are not. I had to reinforce all my Cougar drawers and cabinets because of the low quality materials used in the construction. I havn't touched my Montana. At the time I thought my Cougar was wonderful. . .until I stepped into a Montana. World of difference. In its catagory, the Cougar may be number 1, but its not a Montana and never will be.
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