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Old 08-18-2019, 04:53 PM   #1
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jacks lifting thr tires up?

We are new to this "used" Montana 5th wheel. When we park, unhook the pickup, and hit Level-Up, the jacks extend so far that they raise the tires off the ground. This doesn't seem normal or safe.

Anyone?
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Old 08-18-2019, 05:02 PM   #2
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It's fine if they are hydraulic. Happens all the time.
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Old 08-18-2019, 05:11 PM   #3
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Golfmedik- Does yours do that?
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Old 08-18-2019, 05:15 PM   #4
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An off-level site will cause this to happen. If you are on a level site, then this is not normal. Manually level the RV so the tires are still in contact with the ground and then reset the setting for the future.
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Old 08-18-2019, 05:20 PM   #5
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Yes, we did that. We are actually in the driveway at home. This is not the first time it has happened.
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You did the 10 front, 10 rear button dance and it still lifts the tires off the ground?
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Old 08-18-2019, 05:45 PM   #7
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yes, we did. Thanks
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Old 08-18-2019, 05:46 PM   #8
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We're having a hard time leveling manually.
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Old 08-18-2019, 07:12 PM   #9
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Does anyone know if the middle jacks on a six point system, can be lowered manually? Don't have a manual to read as usual. Cant find on the web site either. Thanx
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Old 08-18-2019, 07:21 PM   #10
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The 4 rear levelers operate together...same as only having a for jack hydraulic system. I find that using the system auto versus manual to be a waste of time as I can manually level faster and safer than auto mode.
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Old 08-18-2019, 07:42 PM   #11
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Our level up freaked out several times and did weird stuff. Ever snice then I level it manually. Once off the truck I lower/raise the front to level according to my Hopkins stick on level indicators. (one front to back , one front to rear ). Then I raise the low side until level. Then lower the other side to the ground and fine tune. Works perfect every time. Will never use the auto level again. Just do not trust it.
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Old 08-18-2019, 08:31 PM   #12
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Only had to reset mine once by manually lifting all 6 up and then retracting. Worked fine after.
For details on leveling : https://www.lci1.com/automatic-leveling
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Old 08-18-2019, 09:45 PM   #13
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If you are having problems with your six point level-up system give Lipppert/LCI Customer Service a call and they will walk you thru the entire analyzation set up and will tell you what the problem is and how to solve it.
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Old 08-19-2019, 05:39 AM   #14
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I can actually level it faster and lower doing it manually.
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Old 08-25-2019, 01:58 PM   #15
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I don't like having tires off the ground, especially since we use the scissor clamps between the tires to keep the rocking to a minimum. So when the tires come off the ground, we have 6 of those 1" thick hard rubber 10" x 10" pads and we will raise the side that the wheels are off the ground some more, and put 1-2 of those pads under the tires, and then raise all the jacks, and do the auto level again, and it comes out nice, and the tires are on solid ground. We have only had to do this about 5 times in the 100+ RV parks we have stayed at.
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I agree, It is much more stabile with all tires on the ground. However I have on occasion stayed the night (1) with all 4 off the ground in a situation where we did not want to unhitch and leave very early in the morning.
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Old 08-30-2019, 06:25 AM   #17
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I don't have level up system but all 4 tires off ground sounds like a problem. I can see low side tires off ground but why would high side be lifted off ground? Just wondering.
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Old 08-30-2019, 08:00 AM   #18
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We have always used the auto level and it works perfectly. We do not want the jacks to extend real far as it affects the stability.We do use blocks under the jacks at all times to minimize the stroke.
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