Go Back   Montana Owners Club - Keystone Montana 5th Wheel Forum > GENERAL DISCUSSIONS > Tow Vehicles & Towing
Click Here to Login

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
 
Old 11-18-2015, 12:37 PM   #1
daneboy
Montana Fan
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Grand Junction
Posts: 245
M.O.C. #4854
6.0 Ford turbo boot

I have had several occasions where the top turbo boot comes off with a load roar. When this happens it scares the heck out of you & you loose power. Two times I have had new boots at a Ford dealer installed and then have them pop off again. I have found if you install a new boot, warm up the engine and get the boot hot, then tighten it again until you think the clamp is about to break. I now carry 2 spare clamps and a 7/16 open end ratchet in the glove box.
daneboy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-18-2015, 01:19 PM   #2
mlh
Montana Master
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Salem
Posts: 4,951
M.O.C. #2283
I have a 6.4 and have had the turbo hoses come off. With 40 + pounds of boost it sounds like a shotgun went off under the hood. You will need clean shorts. If you really won't to fix the problem get you some good aftermarket hoses and where possible double clamp them. Rudy's Diesel Performance and others I'm sure has every thing you need. I almost always carry an extra set of hoses and clamps with my camper. I say almost because the time I needed them I didn't have them with me. I was 65 miles from the nearest Ford dealer almost to the top of Bolder Hill on I 15 in Montana when boom. My wife said what was that and in said turbo hose no problem I'll have this fixed in 10 minutes. There was a problem my turbo hoses were in my camper shed. $300 dollars and 4 hours later we had it fixed.
Lynwood
__________________
www.harrellsprec.com
Lynwood Harrell
323 RL HC 2008 F250
mlh is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 11-18-2015, 02:43 PM   #3
BB_TX
Montana Master
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: McKinney
Posts: 5,251
M.O.C. #6433
Apparently not an uncommon problem. But I had an '07 F350 6.0 traded at about 77,000 and never had the problem. And that was pulling Colorado mountain passes several times over the years with the boost moving up the dial pretty far.

If it happens again, you might try over on the Ford Truck Enthusiasts forum to see if someone there has a good solution. Very active Ford truck owner forum.
__________________
Bill & Patricia

2007 3075RL
2012 F350 SRW CC LB FX4 6.7
BB_TX is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-18-2015, 03:05 PM   #4
1retired06
Montana Master
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Lake Gaston
Posts: 7,866
M.O.C. #12156
Never experienced, 15 years with ford diesels. Knock on wood, I guess.
__________________
Mike and Lorraine
2002 3655 FL, 2005 3650RK
2010 3665RE, 2015 3910FB
F350 crew cab dually 6.7
1retired06 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-18-2015, 03:15 PM   #5
mlh
Montana Master
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Salem
Posts: 4,951
M.O.C. #2283
The solution is turbo hoses. The original equipment hoses are silicone rubber. When the get oil on them they get slick and won't stay on. The aftermarket ones are made of a different much thicker rubber. With a 350 HP tune these hoses will see boost pressure of 52 PSI which is much higher than stock and they stay on.
Lynwood
__________________
www.harrellsprec.com
Lynwood Harrell
323 RL HC 2008 F250
mlh is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 11-18-2015, 10:28 PM   #6
biznsa
Seasoned Camper
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Gaylord
Posts: 73
M.O.C. #8999
Nine years with my '06 6.0 and never had that issue.
biznsa is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-19-2015, 03:34 AM   #7
EMCS retired
Seasoned Camper
 
EMCS retired's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: On the Road
Posts: 75
M.O.C. #14645
When I had my '06 6.0 bulletproofed (or it could have been when I was back for new injectors) they did not put the blue silicone boot back on, instead it looked like a black radiator hose. Eventually it seemed to become saturated with oil and the entire area around it was an oily mess, very disappointing because my engine compartment was always very clean. But never has it blown off.
However, when pulling on the grades, I did discover the 2 speed fan clutch combined with the idler pulley bearing was a new noise that made my heart go up into my throat. But that's another topic.
__________________
Retired FULLTIMERS that Travel & Work -- 2014 Mountaineer 375FLF -- GY G614's -- 2017 F350 DRW, 4.10 axle, 6.7L -- PullRite Super-5th 18K hitch -- Dish Network w/ Winegard G2 automatic portable antenna -- 50A Surge Guard portable -- WiFi Ranger Elite -- Blue Streak -- YourBestAddress.com
EMCS retired is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-19-2015, 07:51 AM   #8
richfaa
Montana Master
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: North Ridgeville
Posts: 19,779
M.O.C. #2839
We have never seen 40 boost on our 08 Ford and never blew a hose.
richfaa is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 11-19-2015, 08:19 AM   #9
mlh
Montana Master
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Salem
Posts: 4,951
M.O.C. #2283
I blew a hose on a 03 6L that was stock. They were put on with radiator hose clamps. Ford didn't have a fix so having a machine shop I made hose clamps. When I finished you would have pulled hoses into before one came off.
Lynwood
__________________
www.harrellsprec.com
Lynwood Harrell
323 RL HC 2008 F250
mlh is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 11-19-2015, 12:37 PM   #10
WaltBennett
Montana Master
 
WaltBennett's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Haymarket
Posts: 1,446
M.O.C. #13325
Interesting discussion. Our '06 6.0 is three and a half years old to us and we've put half it's mileage on it - 58k total. I've heard of the hose problem off and on and had thought about picking up a replacement one just in case something happened. I'm not worried because of mileage, but because of age. The existing one is black, and not blue. Also, have never gotten over 30 - 35 psi, and that was only once.
__________________
WaltBennett is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-19-2015, 12:59 PM   #11
mlh
Montana Master
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Salem
Posts: 4,951
M.O.C. #2283
I'm pretty sure if your hoses are black they are aftermarket. I have never seen a black OEM hose on a ford.
Lynwood
__________________
www.harrellsprec.com
Lynwood Harrell
323 RL HC 2008 F250
mlh is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 11-20-2015, 06:56 AM   #12
Bacfyr
New Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: Durham
Posts: 9
M.O.C. #16097
I have recently discovered that in 06 ford specs two different size hoses, one shorter than the other. I don't know the cutoff date but its an early-later model deal. Also my truck (later model) does fine with the after market that's on it. My sons truck (earlier model) wont hold an after market. The only difference we can see is OEM has a grove molded into the rubber hose designed to mate with a ridge cast into the CAC tube and turbo outlet
Bacfyr is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-25-2015, 02:26 PM   #13
daneboy
Montana Fan
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Grand Junction
Posts: 245
M.O.C. #4854
There are two hoses, one upper and one lower.
daneboy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-26-2015, 07:53 AM   #14
Wheelhouse
Montana Fan
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Aptos
Posts: 347
M.O.C. #11462
We were on our way to Reno, when all of sudden Ka-boom. Sounded like an explosion under the hood. Told my wife not to worry tooooooooooooo much. Checked and saw the air intake hose popped off. Slipped it back, tightened the hose clamp and started off again, when Blam, it did it again. So, I tried again, feeling I wasn't getting enough torque because I forgot to bring a long extension, and blam popped again. Called AAA and the driver came out, told him what the problem was, and fortunately had an extension. He said this was a common problem on the grade. He followed us to the top, to fill out the paper work. Asked him to check and retighten all the hose clamps before leaving, to make sure. He did, and first thing I did was go to the auto parts store and get that extension, lol. No problems since.
Wheelhouse is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-04-2015, 12:45 PM   #15
Bacfyr
New Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: Durham
Posts: 9
M.O.C. #16097
The two sizes and styles I speak of are both upper hoses. We held one up to the other for comparison. It was the Ford parts Dept. that explained the Early/Late model parts break.
Bacfyr is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-05-2015, 10:26 AM   #16
Twopetes
Montana Fan
 
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Beloit
Posts: 231
M.O.C. #17535
I had a 6.0 on an 03 F-250 and ripped a hose. I bought after market and the replacements (both) from Ford and after market parts were over 1/2" shorter. This is part of the problem. The other issue is not a large enough ridge on the pipes.

Solution for me was to use a very strong solvent cleaner on the turbo pipe (I blew the upper turbo hose) and pipe and make sure the new hose was really clean. (Get the oil cleaned out) Work the pipe and hoses together and position and tighten clamps. Make sure to get max insertion on the hose. The pipes and hoses must be clean and dry.

Fortunately the new 6.7 does not have this issue - but good luck, get them cleaned and tight and you should not have any more issues!
__________________
Steve & Lisa
2015 Montana High Country 353 RL | 2011 F-250 FX-4 Crew Cab
Firestone air bags | Reese Goosebox
Ready to live the dream
Twopetes is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-05-2015, 01:12 PM   #17
mlh
Montana Master
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Salem
Posts: 4,951
M.O.C. #2283
How much boost to the 6.7s run?
It is very important to clean the hoses and pipes before installing the hoses. The hoses can work then out from under the clamp and leave the clamp on the pipe. A 6.4 running a 350 horse chip can get up to over 50 pounds of boost. That will be over 750 HP at the fly wheel. That is serious horse power. Not meant to pull your camper.
Lynwood
__________________
www.harrellsprec.com
Lynwood Harrell
323 RL HC 2008 F250
mlh is online now   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
The New 3850FL & Boot size?? TheScotts General Discussions about our Montanas 15 06-18-2013 05:59 PM
I got a new boot... Ozz Geocaching 10 01-03-2013 06:41 AM
2006 Ford Turbo Roberts Tow Vehicles & Towing 11 09-10-2010 06:35 PM
To turbo or not to turbo that's the question Jerzy54 Tow Vehicles & Towing 12 09-24-2006 05:38 PM
My Ford is Bye-Bye-Turbo Hose Blues Sue Tow Vehicles & Towing 32 07-31-2004 10:10 AM

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.3
Disclaimer:

This website is not affiliated with or endorsed by Montana RV, Keystone RV Company or any of its affiliates. This is an independent, unofficial site.


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 06:23 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.9
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
×