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Old 02-17-2019, 12:21 AM   #1
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Lithium Batteries

I know there has been so many threads on here about batteries but I now have ran into an issue. I thought I had replacement batteries all picked and then I went to the RV Show here in SLC UT and my world flipped upside down. Lol

I saw these lithium batteries there and wanting to know if anyone here has heard about them. All the dealers are starting to carry them here as well. They are 12V 150AH (even tho literature says 100) battery weighs 20lbs (very light to pick up)

I am seriously concerdering these while show price is 729.00 each I have attached pictures of their flyer. At least I hope I did it right.
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Old 02-17-2019, 05:12 AM   #2
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found another resaler for $799 http://discountpreparedness.com/prod...ri-ut-battery/

What I find a little concerning is the number of hits when you google them. Not many. Could be good an they are new at it.
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Old 02-17-2019, 06:45 AM   #3
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I would be concerned because a lithium battery that size will get hot.Not sure how hot but Tesla uses a lithium battery and they have a cooling system just for the battery.

Not sure why you would want to buy a battery like that. $700 is a lot of scratch.

I think you have to have a special charger for that type of battery.
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Old 02-17-2019, 06:46 AM   #4
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I suspect they will be great but if I got 2 batteries...ummmmm $1500

that's a lot of beer
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Old 02-17-2019, 07:16 AM   #5
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Lithium batteries still frighten me even though we own things with them! Too many fires. A grand daughter's boyfriend is currently in a hospital with 3rd degree burns when one caught fire.



An AGM at 2-300 bucks each will give very good long lasting service. I still am occasionally using an OPTIMA that I bought in 2000 as a jumper battery for my diesel tractor that hates cold weather (wont own one of their current post 2001 since bought by Johnson Controls)
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Please remember that all lithium batteries are not the same. Lithium ion batteries are offered in many differing formulas and those formulas have differing characteristics. A previous poster mentioned Tesla batteries, Teslo uses a cobalt or nicket ion formula. In the RV verticle Lithium iron phosphate has been the predominate formula marketed and installed. One other key feature besides the lithium chemical formula to consider is the battery management system. It is what controls all aspects of the battery including when it can charge, discharge, reduce rates of charging and discharing as well as temperature compensation and prevention of charging below freezing. There are a couple of very informative videos on Youtube regarding just how inexpensively a BMS can be DIY produced. I mention this to make the point you get what you pay for. A seat belt is probably less than 1% of the price of a new truck but not where you want to cut corners. Do your research and compare their specs to some of the leaders in drop-in LiFePO4 offerings such as BB and Relion, etc.. You will find the choice that is right for you.




Oh by the way if you already have a smart phone, macbook laptop or an e-cigarette/vap stick you already live with using a far more volitile lithium formula than the LiFePO4 found in RV lithium offerings.
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Thanks lithium will be my next RV battery.
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Unless something has changed recently, your converter probably won't charge them.
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found another resaler for $799 http://discountpreparedness.com/prod...ri-ut-battery/

What I find a little concerning is the number of hits when you google them. Not many. Could be good an they are new at it.

Yes They are new to the game and google them as well and didnít find much that is why I came I love the knowledge base on here. They are a local company here and they have a lifetime warranty. Now I know lifetime is only as good as the company.
Once all this snow melts away I have a Victron charge controller that I will be installing along with solar panels.
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The Victron is a good choice for the solar charger. If you go to Progressive Dynamics website they have a section on upgrading your power center to support lithium battery charging. IMHO if you are already going with a Victron solar charger go ahead and installa Victron inverter/charger. Both good products from a leading force in the marine and RV industries.
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Yes They are new to the game and google them as well and didnít find much that is why I came I love the knowledge base on here. They are a local company here and they have a lifetime warranty. Now I know lifetime is only as good as the company.
Once all this snow melts away I have a Victron charge controller that I will be installing along with solar panels.
You might want to see who the actual manufacturer is. I am sure the do not make them. They just stick a label on them. You might find out they are the same as some other established brand.
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Glade,

How do you camp? Lithium is great for someone that is going to boondock quite a bit offering some great advantages. If you primarily camp with hookups the advantages are diminished and you may be better off with conventional batteries.
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Old 02-17-2019, 02:49 PM   #13
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Glade,

How do you camp? Lithium is great for someone that is going to boondock quite a bit offering some great advantages. If you primarily camp with hookups the advantages are diminished and you may be better off with conventional batteries.
99% of our camping is boondocking. Hardly ever have hookups unless at home packing 5th wheel up to leave. Thatís also the reason to do the solar panel.
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sorry if I repeat myself
two words for Lithium Batteries: Weight and Maintanancefree
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two words for Lithium Batteries: Weight and Maintanancefree
That is diffenently a great selling point for sure.
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99% of our camping is boondocking. Hardly ever have hookups unless at home packing 5th wheel up to leave. Thatís also the reason to do the solar panel.

That is my kind of camping. I donít like to stay in an RV Park. Iím a country boy and that is too much like the city.
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Thanks for all your input. I took that with me back to the show today and spoke with the battery Rep and decided to pull the trigger and get 2 and will try them out. They do come with a lifetime warranty which I know the warranty is only as good as the company. So we will see.
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Thanks for all your input. I took that with me back to the show today and spoke with the battery Rep and decided to pull the trigger and get 2 and will try them out. They do come with a lifetime warranty which I know the warranty is only as good as the company. So we will see.
I love the knowledge base here.

Great please keep us informed. Iím sure several of us are interested. I know I am.

I hope their lifetime warranty isnít like I tell my customers, Ďyou have a lifetime warranty if you die soon enoughí. I really do have a lifetime warranty Iím just joking about it.
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Concur with Lynwood. There is a lot of interest in Lithium batteries for those that boondock. We want to hear your actual experiences including the batteries, solar charge controller and converter or I/C issues.
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Concur with Lynwood. There is a lot of interest in Lithium batteries for those that boondock. We want to hear your actual experiences including the batteries, solar charge controller and converter or I/C issues.
As soon as the snow clears and we can get to camping here I will report on what I think about them. They are very light weighting in at 20lbs. I did talk to them about the warranty and hope they are true to their word. Said it really is a lifetime warranty and not prorated over time.
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