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Old 04-03-2017, 04:18 PM   #1
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Towing Question F-350/Montana

I own a 2015 F-350 and am looking at purchasing a Montana 3731 FL the TV has a 6.7 L diesel and is 4 wheel drive short bed crew cab does anyone see a problem with the towing ability of the truck. It is single wheel not dual wheel.
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Old 04-03-2017, 04:48 PM   #2
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Basically the same as our 3711FL and we're at the top end of our TV's capability. You might want to consider a dually.
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Old 04-03-2017, 05:08 PM   #3
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Vinny, I also have an F350 (2016) but had a 2008 F350. I tow a Montana 3150RL and have no problems doing so. Your 3731FL shows a hitch weight of2680 lbs, well within the capacity of your F350. The dry weight is higher than mine and you are a couple feet longer but you should have no issues. Understand, being a short bed you'll have to watch tight turns unless you spring for a slider hitch. I had one for 15 years and rarely used it. In my 2016 I elected to get a non-slider and just be very careful.

You'll get into the discussion with others about single rear wheel vs. dual rear wheels. I have never had a dual wheel truck and really have no desire to own one. But I cannot knock them as many folks love them. And I am sure there are some advantages to them when towing a large fiver. But you cannot get a short bed with dual wheels and that is an issue with some of us.

Either way, your F350 should be fine. Happy travels to you and yours.
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Old 04-03-2017, 09:40 PM   #4
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I have a F350 SRW with a heavy unit. I had it weighed at the fall rally in Goshen. I am pushing the weight but within the limits. It handles the unit fine even in the Rocky Mountains. you will be just fine.
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Old 04-04-2017, 11:50 AM   #5
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here are my real world numbers for my 2014 F350 crew cab shortbed with 11,500 GVRW and a 2015 3711FL
Vehicle weight with full fuel and passengers: 8,200
Vehicle weight with full fuel, passengers and trailer: 10,975 (GVWR 11,500)
pin weight= 2,775 (20%)
Trailer weight fully loaded for camping: 14,075 (GVWR 16500)
Truck and trailer: 22,275 (GCWR 23500)


you should be close to these numbers and within all weights
This was based on individual wheel scales from RVSEF
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Old 04-04-2017, 02:44 PM   #6
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Only way to know is weigh it. The 20% reference for pin weight is usually light by the time you get "stuff" in the Monty.


One trick I have found on my High Country is the fresh water tank appears to be behind the axles so I pull with full water to comp. for the pin weight! - I might be fooling myself, but I believe!
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Old 04-15-2017, 11:22 AM   #7
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I really need to get my 2017 F350 Lariat 4x4 cc sb srw 6.7L on a scale. According to my door sticker my empty weight is 8074 lbs. Maybe yours isn't a 4x4 or have factory puck system which is probably quite heavy also. Even with beefed up frame I thought the aluminum body made truck lighter in total. Hopefully I will come out close to your numbers. Thanks for posting this. Dan



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here are my real world numbers for my 2014 F350 crew cab shortbed with 11,500 GVRW and a 2015 3711FL
Vehicle weight with full fuel and passengers: 8,200
Vehicle weight with full fuel, passengers and trailer: 10,975 (GVWR 11,500)
pin weight= 2,775 (20%)
Trailer weight fully loaded for camping: 14,075 (GVWR 16500)
Truck and trailer: 22,275 (GCWR 23500)


you should be close to these numbers and within all weights
This was based on individual wheel scales from RVSEF
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Old 04-15-2017, 04:50 PM   #8
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You will have no ,zero problem pulling that camper with your truck.
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Old 04-15-2017, 05:44 PM   #9
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Old 04-15-2017, 06:54 PM   #10
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Bad Moon I think you got it. He will soon need a Kenworth to pull that camper.
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Old 04-15-2017, 09:42 PM   #11
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I have the 3730FL, and have estimated my loaded weight at 14,700. I have a 2017 F250, with 6.7l diesel. I am right at the top of the truck's RATED capability, but I can tell you that it does just fine, just fine! Oh, and SRW.
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Old 04-16-2017, 04:52 AM   #12
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But you cannot get a short bed with dual wheels and that is an issue with some of us.
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I volunteer at a research facility in Florida to help them with their equipment maintenance problems.

They are operating 4 F350 short bed pickup trucks that came with DRW and the wide body. It makes a funny looking truck but serves the purpose.

Then the Ford is easy to add the second set of wheels you will have to add mud flaps as well because the single wheel body doesnít have fenders big enough and mud flaps are required when you donít have fenders.

DRW does increase you GCW rating and is the only modification that the owner can do to increase the GCW rating but not the GVW rating.

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Old 04-16-2017, 07:45 AM   #13
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We do not estimate or guess at anything we have the rig weighed usually at the fall rally. We understand the specifications and stay within them. We are at the absolute limits with our 2008 F-350 dually the newer trucks have higher capacities.
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We do not estimate or guess at anything we have the rig weighed usually at the fall rally. We understand the specifications and stay within them. We are at the absolute limits with our 2008 F-350 dually the newer trucks have higher capacities.
Great place to get weighed. This is where we got ours done, it is a great piece of mind knowing you are within your numbers.
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I really need to get my 2017 F350 Lariat 4x4 cc sb srw 6.7L on a scale. According to my door sticker my empty weight is 8074 lbs. Maybe yours isn't a 4x4 or have factory puck system which is probably quite heavy also. Even with beefed up frame I thought the aluminum body made truck lighter in total. Hopefully I will come out close to your numbers. Thanks for posting this. Dan

4x4 with crew cab, not the super crew and only a 6.5 foot bed, not the 8 foot bed. No factory puck system, I installed the universal rails and a B&W patriot hitch.
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Old 04-18-2017, 11:25 AM   #16
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Ford f350 6.7 powerstroke owners

just looking for info not wanting to start a tv. war. i have a 2008 ff350 6.4 and wanting to go to a 2013-2015 f350 dually 6.7 powerstroke, any 6.7 owners in those years any info on how your truck is let men know.. looking for any trouble issues, etcc. i know normal maintenace is required and i do that just wanting to know how you like the 6.7 and if you went to it from a 6.0 or 6.4 powerstroke how is the difference in towing. thanks
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just looking for info not wanting to start a tv. war. i have a 2008 ff350 6.4 and wanting to go to a 2013-2015 f350 dually 6.7 powerstroke, any 6.7 owners in those years any info on how your truck is let men know.. looking for any trouble issues, etcc. i know normal maintenace is required and i do that just wanting to know how you like the 6.7 and if you went to it from a 6.0 or 6.4 powerstroke how is the difference in towing. thanks
I previously owned a 2008 F350 King Ranch with the 6.4 when I bought my used 2011 Monty 3750FL. I would get around 8 mpg pulling around 65 mph on the interstate, and could feel it laboring at times. I traded the '08 for a 2015 KR with the 6.7 and wow, what a difference in both towing power as well as mileage! I currently get around 10 mpg with the same trailer and speeds on the same roads. Dont know if you are familiar with I77 north coming from North Carolina into Virginia, but I believe the grade is around 5%. I was running the '15 and fiver at 65 with cruise control on, and the truck never came out of sixth gear! Turbo boost was up pretty high, but never shifted down. Love the 2015!
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Forgot to mention that both TVs were LB DRWs, and if I run between 60 - 65 on my '15, I can get between 10 & 12 depending on wind and hills.
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Old 04-18-2017, 01:07 PM   #19
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Let me share my experiences with different year Ford trucks. So far, I have owned:
  • 2004 Ford 6.0L - first full year of the "sicko" and this one was no different. Finally an injector stuck open, hydro-locked a cylinder, followed by really ugly noises and smoke. Ford replaced it with a 2008.
  • 2008 Ford 6.4L - A decent truck but a history of radiator leaks due to frame twisting. The first DPF Ford and version 1 of the exhaust cleaning software (never use version 1 of any software). It pulled well until it went into "ReGen" (usually as you started up a grade) and then significant power loss (one reason was limiting the boast pressure during "ReGen"). Milage overall was awful. When we bought the 3700, we upgraded to a F350 due to the increased weight of the RV.
  • 2011 Ford 6.7L - The best truck I ever owned! Great fuel mileage (10-12 MPG consistently), lots of power, improved "ReGen" process such that was not really noticeable, and nary a mechanical problem. We loved that truck!!! Unfortunately somebody else wanted it and it disappeared one night (locked, alarmed, and under flood lights).
  • 2015 Ford 6.7L - Our current truck. We only have 25K on it but no mechanical issues so far. The increased HP and Torque are quite noticeably. My RV is close to 16K and this beast maintains speed up hills much better than the 2011. Ford introduced an "exhaust brake" in 2015. This is an addition to the "Tow Haul" mode and should not confused with a real exhaust brake (like Dodge's). But it is effective. The new 2017's have a 2-stage exhaust brake but I don't know much about it. Mileage did suffer compared to the 2011 likley due to the increased HP and Torque. Flat roads, no wind and I can get up to 10 MPG.
The first two trucks were F250s, the last two are (were) F350s. All were Crew Cab, long bed trucks.

I had a friend tow my 3700 with the 2011 6.7L and he was blown away by the increased power v. his 2008 6.4L dually. My Dodge buddy towed with it for 800+ miles and was impressed with the seats and the mirrors (not so much with the exhaust brake).

I don't think you can go wrong with a 2011-2015 Ford or any of the other brands.
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Old 04-18-2017, 04:06 PM   #20
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2016 F350 6.7 DRW. This is one awesome truck - does everything I need or want from it and super comfortable. In Florida 34 mi RT to work (unhooked) avg 16.5 mpg. Towing about 17,000 miles have averaged 11.5 and that is from the Puget Sound to Orlando and many places in between. 36k on the truck and zero issues.
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