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09-21-2019, 05:29 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Upstate NY
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M.O.C. #14547
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Interior door squeals and squeaks
No big deal except to my nerves.
The hinges on both interior doors squeal like a cat in ... well, sitting on the fence seeking companionship.
Lubed them with a couple different non-staining spray bombs. Still squeal. Removed them and they flop so badly they rwist when being installed and are also 'factory' bent. Trekwood want less then two uucks each plus $36.00 shipping. The $2 each for 6 hinges is acceptable. The shipping amount for about 6-8 ounces is extortion! Home Depot non mortise hinges are too thick. Mortising regular hinges on a standing door frame, difficult to do right. I've found some thin piano hinges and will give them a try.
Door latches join the chorus of swinging door 'music'. I'll be giving a pair of standard Kwik-Set passage door latches a try too.
Amazing the low end junk that these RV manufacturers tend to use - and it isn't just Thor/Keystone/Montana
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Dave W
2014 Montana High Country 343RL (Sold!)
2011 Ford 6.7 Lariat CCLB (Went to PU Heaven)
2019 F150SC XLT SE Sport,w/full tow package
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09-21-2019, 07:41 AM
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Site Team
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Sprayed ours with silicone for a year or so and now they don't do it much. May have just worn the plastic spaces down.
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Dick, Joyce, Diego, Picatso and Gustav
2017 3720 RL, and 2013 HC 343RL
Pullrite Hitch, IS, Disk Brakes, 3rd AC, Winegard Traveler, Bathroom door mod, Dometic 320, couch for desk swap, replaced chairs, sun screens, added awnings, etc.
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09-21-2019, 09:08 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Mar 2019
Location: Milwaukie, OR
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The hinges in my HC look like basic bifold hinges. Is that what you have? I would think that if you do need to mortise for aftermarket hinges that it wouldn't have to be much. You should be able to mortise the door edge a little and not worry about the jamb.
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2018 Montana HC 305RL / HW Progressive EMS
2015 RAM 3500 Laramie Longhorn Crew Cab 4x4 DRW / Demco Recon Hitch on RAM Puck Ball
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09-21-2019, 10:31 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: STAYTON
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M.O.C. #18157
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I'm not positive, but standard handsets might not work, these 'doors' are thinner than a regular door.
Mark
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09-21-2019, 04:48 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Upstate NY
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M.O.C. #14547
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DQDick
Sprayed ours with silicone for a year or so and now they don't do it much. May have just worn the plastic spaces down.
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No plastic in ours. Metal to floppy metal non removeable pin contact that some $15/can lube wouldn't touch though did stop the rear stabilizers from squealing - finally
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Originally Posted by jsb5717
The hinges in my HC look like basic bifold hinges. Is that what you have? I would think that if you do need to mortise for aftermarket hinges that it wouldn't have to be much. You should be able to mortise the door edge a little and not worry about the jamb.
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They are just really flimsy no mortise hinges. I tried a pair of similar but heavier hinges from Home Depot but they push the door closer to the opposite (latch)side enough that itwont close. I suppose I could run the doors through my table saw and narrow them a bit - but then would need to do some staining. I could try just mortising the door but piano hinges just sounds easier.
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Originally Posted by MARK A
I'm not positive, but standard handsets might not work, these 'doors' are thinner than a regular door.
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That may be true. I think I have a used S&B one that I'll try -- or just take one off a door for a trial run before I spend the bucks for better new ones
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Dave W
2014 Montana High Country 343RL (Sold!)
2011 Ford 6.7 Lariat CCLB (Went to PU Heaven)
2019 F150SC XLT SE Sport,w/full tow package
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09-21-2019, 10:12 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: May 2019
Location: Alton
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Any chance you can replace the hinge pin with a brass one? Should solve the squeaking.
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09-22-2019, 05:38 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Upstate NY
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M.O.C. #14547
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Daryles
Any chance you can replace the hinge pin with a brass one? Should solve the squeaking.
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Probably could with a bit of grinder and drill press work. But with that said it wouldn't fix the bent 'flaps' that have been weakened after being straightened a couple times. I can see replacement as the best ajternative
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Dave W
2014 Montana High Country 343RL (Sold!)
2011 Ford 6.7 Lariat CCLB (Went to PU Heaven)
2019 F150SC XLT SE Sport,w/full tow package
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09-22-2019, 10:43 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Sep 2013
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Awwww, good high quality Chinese parts created from melted down tin cans. Glad I don't have a newer rig. Yeah, I would trash those hinges and find a way to make use of better hinges...which are probably still made in China but by a better factory.
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09-22-2019, 01:55 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Upstate NY
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M.O.C. #14547
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MARK A
I'm not positive, but standard handsets might not work, these 'doors' are thinner than a regular door.
Mark
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I just had a chance to measure the doors and they appear to be standard slab door ~1-3/8" thickness. What may be different are the existing hardware mounting holes - but that needs to wait a few days until we get home from the NH White Mountains.
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Dave W
2014 Montana High Country 343RL (Sold!)
2011 Ford 6.7 Lariat CCLB (Went to PU Heaven)
2019 F150SC XLT SE Sport,w/full tow package
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10-02-2019, 08:47 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Upstate NY
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M.O.C. #14547
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Squealing hinges on the bathroom door are history. The flimsey Keystone supplied hinges have been replaced by Gatehouse brand 3" no mortise hinges from Lowe's. An easy install and they appear strong enough that only two were needed. Being no mortising, I installed the two new above the existing without removing the door so it would stay in proper position, When the new ones were screwed in place, I then removed the old. I will have to mortise the latch strike as there is a bit of drag - but that's an easy mod. The downside is that now I have 12 holes to plug and stain, door and frame. Color wise - had a choice of nickle or shiny brass. I chose the brass though the nickle may be a better choice - might just spend another $3.00 and see if I like that color better
The door latch was also removed, cleaned, lubed and properly aligned without overtightening - way too tight from the factory, distorting the guts of the latch - and that now works well with squeals
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Dave W
2014 Montana High Country 343RL (Sold!)
2011 Ford 6.7 Lariat CCLB (Went to PU Heaven)
2019 F150SC XLT SE Sport,w/full tow package
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