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08-30-2006, 08:04 AM
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New Member
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: marquette
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M.O.C. #6131
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day night shades
I am having a problem with the day night shades the white part keeps ripping i have had 6 replaced in the unit so far then when i used it the next time the rear and the kitchen ripped again and really dont know what to do the dealer keeps blaming me and that just makes me mad this is not my first camper but is the first time i have had this problem any ideas would be helpfull
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08-30-2006, 08:05 AM
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New Member
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: marquette
Posts: 8
M.O.C. #6131
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i forgot to say thank you
Brad Miller
2006 3500rl
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08-30-2006, 08:53 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Brownsburg
Posts: 1,186
M.O.C. #5634
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Brad - Slow and eeeaaasssyyyy. I try to put both hands to raise the shade at each end if possible. First I raise just the night portion, then I raise the day shades. The other thing to watch for is make sure you keep them level as you are raising them. When lowering, lower the day shade first, then lower the night shades. Same process, keep hands at both ends and keep it level as you go down.
Phill & Gladys
Sometimes me sits and thinks - sometimes me just sits.
06 GMC 2500HD Duramax 4x4
06 Montana 3400RL
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08-30-2006, 09:26 AM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Ore City
Posts: 325
M.O.C. #2831
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Phill, that is exactly the way we do the shades also. David and I both raise certain shades together...for instance , the one behind the table has to be raised by two people or it will tear up. We found this out when we first got the Montana. Also, we found out that the little plastic end pieces will come off easily ,especially the one behind the table. If they come off, then the white shade will come off the bottom piece and it is a mess to fix. David has had to fix it several times. But, you are right, slow and easy is the way to do it...Amen to everything you said.
Countrygirl or Shirley
Shirley and David
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08-30-2006, 09:31 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: North Ridgeville
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M.O.C. #2839
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They are a pain in the butt and great care must be taken in raising and lowering them or they will rip. It is like indy roadrunner said..Can not believe they put such things in a camper..there has got to be a better way..this sounds like a job for.....OZZ....
Rich& Helen N.Ridgeville,Ohio.
F-350SD, Lariat, V-10,4:30 Diff, tow command Long bed, Crew Cab Dually, 06 3400RL
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08-30-2006, 12:47 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Silver Springs
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M.O.C. #2716
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For those of you coming to the rally, I will show you what we did. They sure work nice now.
Helen
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08-30-2006, 01:34 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Benson
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M.O.C. #1658
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Helen,
If you and Bill can make mine work nice You'll be my heroes
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08-30-2006, 01:44 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Haldimand County
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M.O.C. #122
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Fine tuninig the tension on the little bobins at the bottow will help make them easier to raise and lower. We undid the knots that are there now and wound the cord a few turns around the bobin to apply some tension, then try them out. With some trial and error you can get them running quite nicely.
OntMont (John and Donna)
2005 Montana 3670RL
2001 Silverado 2500HD 4x4 CC Duramax (& 53 Ford F-10)
(2007 Silverado "Classic" 3500 DRW 4x4 CC D/A on order)
2001 Border Collie to ride herd on us.
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08-30-2006, 02:05 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: St. Petersburg
Posts: 343
M.O.C. #4828
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Like indy roadrunner said-slow and easy, first the night shade, PULL OUT away from the window with both hands approx an inch TO CLEAR THE KNOBS and then lift. Same with the day shade. Two ripped shades and a lot of luck. They are tight, but we don't have any more ripped shades.
Richard & Nell Reed
St. Petersburg, Fla.
2002 Ford F250 7.3 Diesel extended cab
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08-30-2006, 02:27 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Fallon
Posts: 6,064
M.O.C. #1989
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Since most of the units have plenty of windows to open, we took the knob off the window by the table. Have it tucked away should we ever need it. This eliminates the shade hanging up on the knob.
Happy trails............................
Sue and Ed Rowe
Hemet California 2005 3400RL 2006 GMC 3500 Dually, D/A, Crew Cab, Long Bed
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08-30-2006, 02:56 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Tipton
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M.O.C. #191
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Did the same as Sue, only with TWO knobs. Stuck em in the cupboard over the window, easy to grab when I want to open the window, don't have to mess with trying to get that shade over the knob the other 320 times a year I move em up and down. (note, the 320 is a hopeful estimate, wish ful hoping, I don't get to stay in Tana THAT many days a year - - - yet! HAHA)
Carol
(Thanks Glenn)
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08-30-2006, 04:12 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Fallon
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M.O.C. #1989
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Carol
I like your new layout for your pictures. Looks really nice. If it was a "Glenn Thing" he did good.
BTW all of the windows in the Monty are easier to open than those that have the screw out knob. Plus they are easier on the noggins of someone walking to close. Eventually the screw also strips inside and you turn and turn and nothing happens. We like the sliders much better - side or up and down.
Happy trails..........................
Happy trails......................
Sue and Ed Rowe
Hemet California 2005 3400RL 2006 GMC 3500 Dually, D/A, Crew Cab, Long Bed
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08-30-2006, 06:23 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location:
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M.O.C. #3142
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That sounds like a good idea to remove the knobs. You know these are the first day/night blinds that I have ever had any trouble with. In our previous rv they went up and down with no problems at all. Do you think Keystone used super cheap ones? I also raise them slowly one at a time..but last time out I had the end pop off and didnt know if and almost lost the whole shade...
2005 2955RL Montana
2002 Chevy 2500HD 8.1 Ext Cab 4x4
Bob and Kathy
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08-30-2006, 09:57 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Bakersfield
Posts: 214
M.O.C. #3933
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I thought I was just a klutz but it sounds like a universal experience. Just had three in our new unit replaced. The problem seems to be the end caps coming off & allowing one end of the shade to tilt up, sliding the lower shade out of the slot. Has anyone had any experience securing the end caps so they won't come off at all? I haven't had time to look yet, but was thinking about running a pin through the end cap and bar so they couldn't come off. Will it work? Mike
Mike & Ronni Sorrell
Bakersfield, Calif.
'06 3295RK
'03 GMC Duramx/Allison,4 door, long bed, supersprings,starboard running boards LineX
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08-31-2006, 02:21 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Silver Springs
Posts: 2,873
M.O.C. #2716
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Bill put small screws in the bottom of ours.
Helen
To follow our journey please click: Bill and Helen's Journey
2005 Montana 3475 pulled by our 2005 Ford 350 Power Stroke Diesel
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08-31-2006, 06:18 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Benson
Posts: 3,121
M.O.C. #1658
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I also put small screws in ours. Sriegle glued his
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08-31-2006, 12:07 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Ray
Posts: 245
M.O.C. #2923
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Yikes, I kept finding a couple of mine on the floor and got tired of putting them back on and just tossed them in a drawer. I better get them on and secure before something bad happens!!
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08-31-2006, 03:41 PM
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Seasoned Camper
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Montrose
Posts: 87
M.O.C. #561
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We had the same problem with ours. Three were missing when we got the Montana. Soon, the one behind the table was beginning to catch and rip the shade. Dealer took three tries before getting the correct ones to replace. I glued the offending ones and the problem was solved.
However, it did little to help the problem with snagging those tie backs on the sides. Last weekend we fixed that problem for good! I had replaced the glass in the dinette window last summer - it was struck by a flying missile of some sort and had a star break about 2 inches big. We decided to leave the side curtains and ties off. We liked it, but it did seem a little bare.
Well, after reading some discussion here about the metal brackets, I decided to make mine from aluminum strips that I got at Lowe's. I made them similar to the bedroom brackets.
Sandy turned each side curtain upside down and cut a slot to string the "bottom" (now the top) on the curtain rod. Slid the "new" brackets through the old curtain rod slot and screwed them to the wall. We really like the look and there is NO catching on anything while moving up or down. I think others have done the same or similar but we are so hppy with the result, I thought I'd add it here.
Russ
Russ & Sandy
CO
03 Montana 2955RL 02 Chevy 2500HD D/A
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08-31-2006, 03:53 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Naples
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M.O.C. #4049
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We replaced the dining room shade and the replacement ripped. Replaced the bedroom shade and it ripped. Glued and screwed the end caps into place, so we don't have any problem with the shades shifting when we open or close them, but gave up on having them work properly. Have been looking at Home Depot and I am thinking of ordering some shades and replacing all of the original ones.
Gary and Karen
SFC USAR Ret.
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2006 2950RK
2005 Chev 2500HD Duramax/Allison SB
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"Twenty years from now, you will be more disappointed by the things you did not do than by the things you did, so throw off the bow lines, sail away from safe harbor and catch the trade winds in your sails." Mark Twain
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