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08-24-2006, 02:42 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: K.C.
Posts: 11,731
M.O.C. #5980
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Converter
Hi folks,
Does anyone have a link to a site where I can read up on the converter in our 3400Rl Montana's, I have no information on it at all.
Is it a 3 stage Boost, storage, and desulfation as well as normal mode?
Also is it a 60 Amp.? (Could be 45, 60, 70, or 80.)
I don't even know the brand name or model. (I know it's up there, but I have both of my panels and all the associated wiring hanging in the way.)
I hope there is a link out there somewhere.
Thanks for your help.
http://i8.tinypic.com/25h0oro.jpg
Ozz
'07 3400RL 2nd RTU
2 Golf Cart batteries 3,000 watt inverter, automatic transfer switch
Honda 2000 Generator, Maytag's with 220 Dryer
Stationary domed Sat. dish, LCD 12 Volt Amp gauge, LCD Tank Monitor
3 added 120 volt outlets, On Board Air; 12 Volt Viair 450C compressor
2006 Ford PSD 4x4 Off Road Lariat, Hadley Air Horns, Truck inverter with 110 volts: laptop, Color Backup camera, Firestone air bags,Husky air ride roller hitch, Awning lock
 
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08-24-2006, 04:35 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Silver Springs
Posts: 2,873
M.O.C. #2716
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All I can tell you is that it has two 30 amp fuses. I know cuz we just had to replace them both.
Helen
To follow our journey please click: Bill and Helen's Journey
2005 Montana 3475 pulled by our 2005 Ford 350 Power Stroke Diesel
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08-24-2006, 07:55 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2005
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M.O.C. #4890
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http://www.iotaengineering.com/ppnews.htm
Check out the little IQ4 plug and play. I bought one and my generator charges the battery faster now. I can get the model # that is my Montana if you need it. You will see the jack that the IQ4 plugs into on your convertor..
Don & Donna
Vancouver Island
2005 Ford F350 V10 Lariat CC 4x4 LB SRW 11200 GVWR
2006 Montana 2955RL 
click on the little pic to see a big pic
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08-24-2006, 09:10 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: May 2006
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M.O.C. #5751
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The Iota Converter is a 55 amp model. The model number is either DLS 55 or IDP 240. I only looked at it briefly and saw both numbers...since it was 500 degrees in the rig, I left. Next time I go to the storge area, I'll look again.
Hopefully, the converters are single output and not dual output, and are the 'smart' kind so they do not fry our batteries.
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08-24-2006, 10:54 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jul 2006
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M.O.C. #5980
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Thanks Don and Cat320, I'll do research.
Ozz
'07 3400RL 2nd RTU
2 Golf Cart batteries 3,000 watt inverter, automatic transfer switch
Honda 2000 Generator, Maytag's with 220 Dryer
Stationary domed Sat. dish, LCD 12 Volt Amp gauge, LCD Tank Monitor
3 added 120 volt outlets, On Board Air; 12 Volt Viair 450C compressor
2006 Ford PSD 4x4 Off Road Lariat, Hadley Air Horns, Truck inverter with 110 volts: laptop, Color Backup camera, Firestone air bags,Husky air ride roller hitch, Awning lock
 
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08-24-2006, 11:41 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Conover
Posts: 995
M.O.C. #1832
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Ozz,
A simple IQ4 plug will turn it into a 3 stage charger you requested, but not with out the IQ4 plug. They are about 30 bucks.
Broome101
2005 F350 PSD,SRW,CC,LB, King Ranch, 4x4
2005 3685FL
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08-24-2006, 12:06 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: May 2006
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M.O.C. #5751
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The correct model is a DLS 55.
The web site states that it "maintains the battery, only putting back what is required by load or self discharge. It is also available with an IQ Smart-Controller already integrated into the unit providing 'smart charging' capability."
Integrated meant to me it's there...however, when I clicked on 'smart-controller' it inferred that this was something I needed to buy.
Surely a $60k rv has a smart controller! Think I'll email Iota.
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08-24-2006, 12:20 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: K.C.
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M.O.C. #5980
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I agree, it should be the 3 stage, we really need that, to maintain a good charge, quick recovery and the desulfation process. I thought it would be around 60, they aren't going to give anything extra for the $60K.
I'm running Two 6 volt Golf cart batteries for the extra power, I want it to be the best it can be.
Ozz
'07 3400RL 2nd RTU
2 Golf Cart batteries 3,000 watt inverter, automatic transfer switch
Honda 2000 Generator, Maytag's with 220 Dryer
Stationary domed Sat. dish, LCD 12 Volt Amp gauge, LCD Tank Monitor
3 added 120 volt outlets, On Board Air; 12 Volt Viair 450C compressor
2006 Ford PSD 4x4 Off Road Lariat, Hadley Air Horns, Truck inverter with 110 volts: laptop, Color Backup camera, Firestone air bags,Husky air ride roller hitch, Awning lock
 
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08-24-2006, 02:44 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Haldimand County
Posts: 2,413
M.O.C. #122
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My sons new Cougar did come with a smart charge multi stage type converter, (not Iota brand though) If you have an 07 Montana, it might have the same thing.
OntMont (John and Donna)
2005 Montana 3670RL
2001 Silverado 2500HD Duramax (& 53 Ford F-10)
(2007 Silverado "Classic" 3500 DRW D/A on order)
2001 Border Collie to ride herd on us.
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08-24-2006, 02:45 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: May 2006
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M.O.C. #5751
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Sent IOTA an email about an hour ago...hope to hear something tomorrow.
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08-24-2006, 02:46 PM
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Site Team
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Carmichael - CA
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Quote:
quote:Originally posted by Ozz
I agree, it should be the 3 stage...
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Shoulda, woulda, coulda but by now you should know how the RV industry works. The IOTA 55 converter installed by Keystone does not have the "smart charge" capability. For that you have to buy the IQ4. $25 bucks or so from several web sites. Works very well.
On edit: here is a picture of the IQ4 (the silver cube on the plywood wall) along with the much more accessible IOTA DLS 55 installed in a 2955RL.
http://i8.tinypic.com/25i9oaw.jpg
Carl (and Susan) Youngren
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08-25-2006, 05:42 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2005
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M.O.C. #4890
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Yes that little IQ4 is worth the money and I attached it to the wall like Carl did.
My 06 2955RL does have easy access to the convertor, furnace, and water pump through the wall panels in the basement.
Don & Donna
Vancouver Island
2005 Ford F350 V10 Lariat CC 4x4 LB SRW 11200 GVWR
2006 Montana 2955RL 
click on the little pic to see a big pic
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08-25-2006, 06:06 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jul 2006
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M.O.C. #5980
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Hey Don, did you see my access? And you can't stand on the toilet seat, it is so thin, you would fall in!
I will ask Sue to order one.
Thanks everyone.
Ozz
http://i8.tinypic.com/25h0oro.jpg
'07 3400RL 2nd RTU
2 Golf Cart batteries 3,000 watt inverter, automatic transfer switch
Honda 2000 Generator, Maytag's with 220 Dryer
Stationary domed Sat. dish, LCD 12 Volt Amp gauge, LCD Tank Monitor
3 added 120 volt outlets, On Board Air; 12 Volt Viair 450C compressor
2006 Ford PSD 4x4 Off Road Lariat, Hadley Air Horns, Truck inverter with 110 volts: laptop, Color Backup camera, Firestone air bags,Husky air ride roller hitch, Awning lock
  
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08-25-2006, 10:29 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: May 2006
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Looks like it's unanimous.
This is from IOTA:
"We have 2 models. DLS-55A - (standard units that do not have the smart controller built inside) therefore an option is to purchase the Smart Charger. It plugs right on the top of the converter.
AND
DLS-55W/IQ4 ( this unit has an smart charger built inside internally )"
Translation...we have to purchase the 'smart charger' if we want one.
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08-25-2006, 10:42 AM
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Montana Master
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M.O.C. #5751
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Where did you guys find yours on internet?
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08-25-2006, 11:04 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jul 2006
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M.O.C. #5980
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Cat 320, Sue just ordered one, the people there are great. I think the previous posters had the cost, it will save many headaches, and probably batteries, down the line.
Ozz
'07 3400RL 2nd RTU
2 Golf Cart batteries 3,000 watt inverter, automatic transfer switch
Honda 2000 Generator, Maytag's with 220 Dryer
Stationary domed Sat. dish, LCD 12 Volt Amp gauge, LCD Tank Monitor
3 added 120 volt outlets, On Board Air; 12 Volt Viair 450C compressor
2006 Ford PSD 4x4 Off Road Lariat, Hadley Air Horns, Truck inverter with 110 volts: laptop, Color Backup camera, Firestone air bags,Husky air ride roller hitch, Awning lock
  
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08-25-2006, 11:30 AM
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Montana Master
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M.O.C. #5751
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Ozz...where did she get it?
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08-25-2006, 12:23 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2005
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M.O.C. #4890
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I had to phone 3 different RV places before I found a guy that could order them.
Don & Donna
Vancouver Island
2005 Ford F350 V10 Lariat CC 4x4 LB SRW 11200 GVWR
2006 Montana 2955RL 
click on the little pic to see a big pic
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08-25-2006, 12:25 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2005
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[quote] Originally posted by Ozz
Hey Don, did you see my access? And you can't stand on the toilet seat, it is so thin, you would fall in!
I will ask Sue to order one.
Thanks everyone.
Ozz
http://i8.tinypic.com/25h0oro.jpg
'07 3400RL 2nd RTU
2 Golf Cart batteries 3,000 watt inverter, automatic transfer switch
Honda 2000 Generator, Maytag's with 220 Dryer
Stationary domed Sat. dish, LCD 12 Volt Amp gauge, LCD Tank Monitor
3 added 120 volt outlets, On Board Air; 12 Volt Viair 450C compressor
2006 Ford PSD 4x4 Off Road Lariat, Hadley Air Horns, Truck inverter with 110 volts: laptop, Color Backup camera, Firestone air bags,Husky air ride roller hitch, Awning lock
  
Wow, what a place to put that convertor!!
Don & Donna
Vancouver Island
2005 Ford F350 V10 Lariat CC 4x4 LB SRW 11200 GVWR
2006 Montana 2955RL 
click on the little pic to see a big pic
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08-25-2006, 12:32 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jul 2006
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M.O.C. #5980
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I hope the fuses hold up, I think I can plug the addition in easily.
'07 3400RL 2nd RTU
2 Golf Cart batteries 3,000 watt inverter, automatic transfer switch
Honda 2000 Generator, Maytag's with 220 Dryer
Stationary domed Sat. dish, LCD 12 Volt Amp gauge, LCD Tank Monitor
3 added 120 volt outlets, On Board Air; 12 Volt Viair 450C compressor
2006 Ford PSD 4x4 Off Road Lariat, Hadley Air Horns, Truck inverter with 110 volts: laptop, Color Backup camera, Firestone air bags,Husky air ride roller hitch, Awning lock
  
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