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03-23-2015, 08:45 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Depends on temps
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M.O.C. #13157
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Step Re-Call 15-224
This is a recall on the Quad Step made by Hickory Springs. I called today, my quad step has the top rivet all but pulled out.
Guess what, mine is NOT included in the recall. So I filed another report @ NHTSA and got a phone call in about 30 minutes.
My step is CLEARLY a Hickory Springs step. But to be told mine is not involved, CLEARLY ****** ME OFF.
Please call Keystone and see if your's is involved and if not and your rivet is pulling out, file a complaint.
The NHTSA Recall # is 15V102000 Keystone # is 15-224
http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/owners/..._ids=15V102000
http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/acms/cs...5V102-7084.PDF
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2012 Ram Laramie 3500 DRW 4x4 3.73 Tow Max Pkg B&W Companion 60 gal RDS aux fuel tank. 2014 Montana 3150RL, 2 A/C's, Leather, 6 Point Jacks, Splendede WD2100XC, Mor/ryde X-Factor, Duravis 250 tires with TST 507RV monitors. 2 x Honda EU2000's
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03-23-2015, 08:51 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Washington Coast
Posts: 2,688
M.O.C. #10696
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yep a couple of my rivets started popping out on mine so I just put step bolts in their place and now WAY better than new and also I bought $15.00 Adjustable step supports(a little lighter than Cinder blocks under the last step.....problem solved
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03-23-2015, 09:05 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Pahrump
Posts: 2,523
M.O.C. #1081
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Mine broke at the second step up, wife nearly broke her neck when coming down them. Keystone said I am NOT covered! I had to put a bolt in it to hold it together. Have new steps ordered through my extended warranty.
Would be nice to know just exactly which models & years ARE covered under this re-call! (If any!)
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03-23-2015, 09:24 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Winfield
Posts: 7,327
M.O.C. #6846
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It is not a recall in the sense that you get replacement steps. All the fix does is replace the rivets with "fasteners". Since we had one break and the dealer replaced the rivet with a bolt, I will just carry a couple of bolts and if I get energetic, replace the rivets before they fail. I would assume that the replacement "fasteners" are most likely bolts anyway. It would cost me more in fuel to get to a dealer than the replacement bolts will cost.
Bingo
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03-23-2015, 10:37 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: North Ridgeville
Posts: 20,229
M.O.C. #2839
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Lucky it is just a minor problem.Mine are involved but I will fix it myself snce it is s minor problem.
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03-23-2015, 04:10 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jan 2013
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M.O.C. #13157
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Quote:
quote:Originally posted by richfaa
Lucky it is just a minor problem.Mine are involved but I will fix it myself snce it is s minor problem.
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A entry step that could fail and cause a broken hip or broken arm. I DO NOT consider that a minor problem.
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2012 Ram Laramie 3500 DRW 4x4 3.73 Tow Max Pkg B&W Companion 60 gal RDS aux fuel tank. 2014 Montana 3150RL, 2 A/C's, Leather, 6 Point Jacks, Splendede WD2100XC, Mor/ryde X-Factor, Duravis 250 tires with TST 507RV monitors. 2 x Honda EU2000's
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03-23-2015, 04:10 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Lake Gaston
Posts: 8,773
M.O.C. #12156
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Same here.
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03-24-2015, 07:26 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Pensacola (mail forward service)
Posts: 3,198
M.O.C. #13740
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Glad I have lippert steps... If your rivets are failing that easy, maybe you should think about replacing them all with bolts at the same time or ordering some lippert steps. Think you are probably more valuable in a healthy state than paying for major damage to the body OR even killing yourself. John
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03-24-2015, 01:06 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Chilliwack
Posts: 1,520
M.O.C. #12935
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Wow must be my lucky week, my Thetford toilet has not crapped out and I have Lippert Quad steps. Made in America "right".
Mine have a small sticker on them with a little smiley face, indicates the batch number, lists it as a 8" Quad step and a big QC beside which is printed "passed". Oh just one more thing on this little sticker, it also says "made in India".
It does have the much larger Lippert sticker as well.
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03-24-2015, 02:01 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Centerville
Posts: 1,350
M.O.C. #9051
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Quote:
quote:Originally posted by jlb27537
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quote:Originally posted by richfaa
Lucky it is just a minor problem.Mine are involved but I will fix it myself snce it is s minor problem.
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A entry step that could fail and cause a broken hip or broken arm. I DO NOT consider that a minor problem.
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I think what was meant, it is a minor problem to fix, and now that you are aware, it should still remain a minor problem , and fixed. Instead of letting it turn into a major problem like a broken hip or arm.
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03-24-2015, 02:09 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Mar 2007
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M.O.C. #6920
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Hey Bingo, ours broke and and like other issues I repaired it myself.
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03-26-2015, 05:02 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: YUMA
Posts: 861
M.O.C. #2625
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03-27-2015, 02:36 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Depends on temps
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M.O.C. #13157
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Bill, Please submit a complaint to http://www.safercar.gov/
Your brand of steps are not under the Hickory Springs recall.
Jim
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2012 Ram Laramie 3500 DRW 4x4 3.73 Tow Max Pkg B&W Companion 60 gal RDS aux fuel tank. 2014 Montana 3150RL, 2 A/C's, Leather, 6 Point Jacks, Splendede WD2100XC, Mor/ryde X-Factor, Duravis 250 tires with TST 507RV monitors. 2 x Honda EU2000's
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03-27-2015, 07:04 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Livingston
Posts: 1,150
M.O.C. #12333
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I have called Keystone twice and our unit is still not on the recall list even though our rig falls within the manufacturers date. I will give them one more time then will be calling NHTSA....
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03-27-2015, 09:33 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jan 2013
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M.O.C. #13157
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Les, Go to this link. It shows the vin ranges of the 13-15 models involved. My vin was NOT flagged, thus customer service said mine was not covered when it was. Look at the last 8 of your vin and then match to the listing for '15 Montana. If you find it is, call back and INSIST on talking to a manager, they have a lot of new folks that do not know how to work the computers.
http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/acms/cs...5V102-7084.PDF
Jim
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2012 Ram Laramie 3500 DRW 4x4 3.73 Tow Max Pkg B&W Companion 60 gal RDS aux fuel tank. 2014 Montana 3150RL, 2 A/C's, Leather, 6 Point Jacks, Splendede WD2100XC, Mor/ryde X-Factor, Duravis 250 tires with TST 507RV monitors. 2 x Honda EU2000's
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03-27-2015, 12:30 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Pahrump
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M.O.C. #1081
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I have the Hickory Springs steps and ours broke at the rivet between the second and third steps just as the recall notice states and Keystone keeps saying we are NOT in the recall.
I contacted our extended warranty company and they are replacing the entire steps for us. Guess they can fight with Keystone over it.
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03-27-2015, 12:55 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Livingston
Posts: 1,150
M.O.C. #12333
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Thanks Jim. Our Vin is in there....will call Keystone again on Monday....
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03-30-2015, 12:33 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Boise
Posts: 288
M.O.C. #13564
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The top step rivet on our steps are really bent and as I was investigating the stress on the rivet I found that the bottom support at the front of the mounting bracket was cracked on both sides. Wife and I are not small but well under 200lbs so should not be a problem with weight or excessive stress with normal use. I took it to camping world today and they will "try" to get my extended warrenty to replace the steps. Like I told the technician at cw even though the steps needed the recall repair made, the cracking of the support frame is really a major problem which will require full replacement. I was in hopes I could upgrade the steps and pay the difference between the standard ones but they said that the warranty would not allow for upgrading the steps even if I pay the difference
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03-30-2015, 12:53 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: Sioux Falls
Posts: 505
M.O.C. #14162
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I called the feds last Wednesday after receiving the blow-off from Keystone. The Keystone kid really didn't seem to have much of an idea what I was talking about. Got a call from the feds on Friday morning. He couldn't believe Keystone was taking the position they are, our VIN is just missing the recall range. He believes the range is completely subjective. Says he expects to make his recommendations for an expanded recall range. I'll keep everyone posted.
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2018 Montana 3790RD
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04-01-2015, 01:52 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: Sioux Falls
Posts: 505
M.O.C. #14162
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Got my call yesterday from Jamie Salazar at Keystone, this after calling the NHTSA last week. Jamie advised that I am now approved for the steps fix. As I thought, he indicated that their preliminary release of VIN numbers is just that, a start. Unfortunately, I don't think they expand the range of recalls until the complaints from NHTSA start coming in. Does anyone know yet what the actual fix is?
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2018 Montana 3790RD
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