Towing Question F-350/Montana

[vinnyhill1504]

I own a 2015 F-350 and am looking at purchasing a Montana 3731 FL the TV has a 6.7 L diesel and is 4 wheel drive short bed crew cab does anyone see a problem with the towing ability of the truck. It is single wheel not dual wheel.

[phillyg]

Basically the same as our 3711FL and we're at the top end of our TV's capability. You might want to consider a dually.

[Slufoot733]

Vinny, I also have an F350 (2016) but had a 2008 F350. I tow a Montana 3150RL and have no problems doing so. Your 3731FL shows a hitch weight of2680 lbs, well within the capacity of your F350. The dry weight is higher than mine and you are a couple feet longer but you should have no issues. Understand, being a short bed you'll have to watch tight turns unless you spring for a slider hitch. I had one for 15 years and rarely used it. In my 2016 I elected to get a non-slider and just be very careful.

You'll get into the discussion with others about single rear wheel vs. dual rear wheels. I have never had a dual wheel truck and really have no desire to own one. But I cannot knock them as many folks love them. And I am sure there are some advantages to them when towing a large fiver. But you cannot get a short bed with dual wheels and that is an issue with some of us.

Either way, your F350 should be fine. Happy travels to you and yours.

[Phil P]

Originally Posted by Slufoot733

But you cannot get a short bed with dual wheels and that is an issue with some of us.

Hi

I volunteer at a research facility in Florida to help them with their equipment maintenance problems.

They are operating 4 F350 short bed pickup trucks that came with DRW and the wide body. It makes a funny looking truck but serves the purpose.

Then the Ford is easy to add the second set of wheels you will have to add mud flaps as well because the single wheel body doesn’t have fenders big enough and mud flaps are required when you don’t have fenders.

DRW does increase you GCW rating and is the only modification that the owner can do to increase the GCW rating but not the GVW rating.

Phil P

[dfb]

Originally Posted by Slufoot733

Vinny, I also have an F350 (2016) but had a 2008 F350. I tow a Montana 3150RL and have no problems doing so. Your 3731FL shows a hitch weight of2680 lbs, well within the capacity of your F350. The dry weight is higher than mine and you are a couple feet longer but you should have no issues. Understand, being a short bed you'll have to watch tight turns unless you spring for a slider hitch. I had one for 15 years and rarely used it. In my 2016 I elected to get a non-slider and just be very careful.

You'll get into the discussion with others about single rear wheel vs. dual rear wheels. I have never had a dual wheel truck and really have no desire to own one. But I cannot knock them as many folks love them. And I am sure there are some advantages to them when towing a large fiver. But you cannot get a short bed with dual wheels and that is an issue with some of us.

Either way, your F350 should be fine. Happy travels to you and yours.

Ram makes a dually short bed.

[Mudchief]

I have a F350 SRW with a heavy unit. I had it weighed at the fall rally in Goshen. I am pushing the weight but within the limits. It handles the unit fine even in the Rocky Mountains. you will be just fine.

[cw3jason]

here are my real world numbers for my 2014 F350 crew cab shortbed with 11,500 GVRW and a 2015 3711FL
Vehicle weight with full fuel and passengers: 8,200
Vehicle weight with full fuel, passengers and trailer: 10,975 (GVWR 11,500)
pin weight= 2,775 (20%)
Trailer weight fully loaded for camping: 14,075 (GVWR 16500)
Truck and trailer: 22,275 (GCWR 23500)


you should be close to these numbers and within all weights
This was based on individual wheel scales from RVSEF

[cub22908]

I really need to get my 2017 F350 Lariat 4x4 cc sb srw 6.7L on a scale. According to my door sticker my empty weight is 8074 lbs. Maybe yours isn't a 4x4 or have factory puck system which is probably quite heavy also. Even with beefed up frame I thought the aluminum body made truck lighter in total. Hopefully I will come out close to your numbers. Thanks for posting this. Dan

Originally Posted by cw3jason

here are my real world numbers for my 2014 F350 crew cab shortbed with 11,500 GVRW and a 2015 3711FL
Vehicle weight with full fuel and passengers: 8,200
Vehicle weight with full fuel, passengers and trailer: 10,975 (GVWR 11,500)
pin weight= 2,775 (20%)
Trailer weight fully loaded for camping: 14,075 (GVWR 16500)
Truck and trailer: 22,275 (GCWR 23500)


you should be close to these numbers and within all weights
This was based on individual wheel scales from RVSEF

[cw3jason]

Originally Posted by cub22908

I really need to get my 2017 F350 Lariat 4x4 cc sb srw 6.7L on a scale. According to my door sticker my empty weight is 8074 lbs. Maybe yours isn't a 4x4 or have factory puck system which is probably quite heavy also. Even with beefed up frame I thought the aluminum body made truck lighter in total. Hopefully I will come out close to your numbers. Thanks for posting this. Dan

4x4 with crew cab, not the super crew and only a 6.5 foot bed, not the 8 foot bed. No factory puck system, I installed the universal rails and a B&W patriot hitch.

[Twopetes]

Only way to know is weigh it. The 20% reference for pin weight is usually light by the time you get "stuff" in the Monty.


One trick I have found on my High Country is the fresh water tank appears to be behind the axles so I pull with full water to comp. for the pin weight! - I might be fooling myself, but I believe!

[mlh]

You will have no ,zero problem pulling that camper with your truck.
Lynwood

[Bad Moon]

[mlh]

Bad Moon I think you got it. He will soon need a Kenworth to pull that camper.
Lynwood

[Grzly03]

I have the 3730FL, and have estimated my loaded weight at 14,700. I have a 2017 F250, with 6.7l diesel. I am right at the top of the truck's RATED capability, but I can tell you that it does just fine, just fine! Oh, and SRW.

[richfaa]

We do not estimate or guess at anything we have the rig weighed usually at the fall rally. We understand the specifications and stay within them. We are at the absolute limits with our 2008 F-350 dually the newer trucks have higher capacities.

[cw3jason]

Originally Posted by richfaa

We do not estimate or guess at anything we have the rig weighed usually at the fall rally. We understand the specifications and stay within them. We are at the absolute limits with our 2008 F-350 dually the newer trucks have higher capacities.

Great place to get weighed. This is where we got ours done, it is a great piece of mind knowing you are within your numbers.

[okierver]

just looking for info not wanting to start a tv. war. i have a 2008 ff350 6.4 and wanting to go to a 2013-2015 f350 dually 6.7 powerstroke, any 6.7 owners in those years any info on how your truck is let men know.. looking for any trouble issues, etcc. i know normal maintenace is required and i do that just wanting to know how you like the 6.7 and if you went to it from a 6.0 or 6.4 powerstroke how is the difference in towing. thanks

[ohiomoen]

Originally Posted by okierver

just looking for info not wanting to start a tv. war. i have a 2008 ff350 6.4 and wanting to go to a 2013-2015 f350 dually 6.7 powerstroke, any 6.7 owners in those years any info on how your truck is let men know.. looking for any trouble issues, etcc. i know normal maintenace is required and i do that just wanting to know how you like the 6.7 and if you went to it from a 6.0 or 6.4 powerstroke how is the difference in towing. thanks

I previously owned a 2008 F350 King Ranch with the 6.4 when I bought my used 2011 Monty 3750FL. I would get around 8 mpg pulling around 65 mph on the interstate, and could feel it laboring at times. I traded the '08 for a 2015 KR with the 6.7 and wow, what a difference in both towing power as well as mileage! I currently get around 10 mpg with the same trailer and speeds on the same roads. Dont know if you are familiar with I77 north coming from North Carolina into Virginia, but I believe the grade is around 5%. I was running the '15 and fiver at 65 with cruise control on, and the truck never came out of sixth gear! Turbo boost was up pretty high, but never shifted down. Love the 2015!

[ohiomoen]

Forgot to mention that both TVs were LB DRWs, and if I run between 60 - 65 on my '15, I can get between 10 & 12 depending on wind and hills.

[Richard Blackwell]

okierver, we went from a 2002 F250 SRW 7.3L diesel to a 2014 F350 DRW 6.7L B20 diesel. Made a 100% improvement on pulling power, handling ride and downhill engine braking performance using speed control. When using the 2002, couldn't get any power at higher elevations (above 5K) to maintain constant speeds, plus the SRW handling was a touch on the iffy side as compared to having DRW. The 2002 torque was only around 550 while my 2014 is 800 at only 1600rpm. Couldn't come close the overall improvement for us pulling our 2013 3402RL which when fully outfitted for our road trips is around 15100+-. Hope this gives you some experience ideas.