Slide out operation pause

[jjfoster4245]

We have a 2006 3000RK and when we operate the slides sometimes the liveing room slide will pause for 10 to 15 seconds and then continue to slide in or out. I suspect it is a circuit breaker, but was wondering if anyone else is having the same problem? Any help would be appericated. Thanks,
jjfoster

[richfaa]

Not sure what you mean mean by "pause" If you means it stops working, you let up off the slide switch and in 10 or 15 seconds it works again...Yes it is a ckt breaker and I am not saying it is normal because I don't know but it is a common occurrence. We have the 3400 with 4 slides and we will bring in a couple of slides then let up on the switch, bring in another one, let it cool then bring in the main slide. We have not had a "pause since we started doing that..

[rldriver]

If the problem happens as Rich stated then he is more than likely correct that it's a circuit breaker. There has been some posting here with pictures on how to build a larger breaker so this problem will go away. If it is the circuit breaker it will just get weaker and weaker every time it trips.

Try this http://www.montanaowners.com/forums/...cuit%20breaker

[Montana Sky]

My 3400RL will "pause" when operating the slides, but I have noticed it only seems to happen when the outside temps are in the high 80's or higher.

[Trailer Trash 2]

Here is what Dale told me to make for mine after the install I never had a problem again.

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I have the whole process on a adoby file from him if you want it you will have to get me your e-mail address.

Don. AKA TT2

[JH Sechelt]

Did the same as TT2
Put 2 40 amp circuit breakers together for a total of 80 Amps
no problem since.

J&D

[Cat320]

quote:Originally posted by JH Sechelt

Did the same as TT2
Put 2 40 amp circuit breakers together for a total of 80 Amps
no problem since.

J&D

Maybe I'm missing something here, and certainly do not claim to know that much about 12v electricity, but it seems to me with 80 amps you are defeating the purpose of a circuit breaker. Will it ever 'break the circuit' at 80 amps?

[OntMont]

That is a valid concern, but we have been told by Dale (former Lippert Customer Service person) that we are OK at 80 amps. Keystone are being cautious by using only a 40 amp breaker. That said, it is worthwhile to make sure that there is not some valid reason for the tripping, because not everybody has this problem (we have not had it - yet). Make sure all the drive gears and shafts under the slide are lubricated, also the main beams that slide in and out should be lubricated with a "dry lube". The wipe seals may also need a coating of silicone spray both on the rubber and the sides of the slides. Taking care of all these items, may cure the problem. Another related item, operate your slides monthly if you are leaving them out for extended periods.

[richfaa]

If you where having a problem with the circuit breaker popping, you probably should replace it. Because, everytime it pops, it gets weaker. That breaker should be a 50 amp auto reset 12 volt breaker. It probably doesn't come close to being rated at 50 amps any more if it has been snapping open.

After you have gone thru all this and replaced the breaker and if it is still popping, an amperage draw test needs to be done on the pump motor. It is not uncommon to find the motor drawing 50 to 70 amps. If it is drawing 60, 70, or 80 amps another auto reset breaker can be added in parallel to the 50. Or an 80 amp 12 volt manual reset can go in inplace of the 50 amp ..(.From a post by MIMF2 and one time lipperet sales rep...) Next time you are at a RV show find a camper with Lippert slides and note what size ckt breaker is used.

[JH Sechelt]

quote:Originally posted by Cat320

Maybe I'm missing something here, and certainly do not claim to know that much about 12v electricity, but it seems to me with 80 amps you are defeating the purpose of a circuit breaker. Will it ever 'break the circuit' at 80 amps?

Nothing wrong with a 80 amp circuit breaker. the number only represents the amount of current that can go through the breaker before it gets too hot and trips. Our trailer came with a 50 amp breaker for the slide pump, but during the cold weather I found the slide pump was using 60 to 65 amps. therefore tripping the breaker. As Dale said 100 amp might be too high for the pump, but 80 seems to work OK. I had to parallel two 40 amp breakers (couldn't find a 80 amp breaker where I live).

J&D

[MIMF2]

Gentlemen,

The motor that operates that pump is rated to draw as much as 100 amps. Now, Keystone thinks that pump motor only draws 30 amps. That was according to a test they done a long time ago except for one minor detail. They did not have the pump under load with the pump actually hooked up to hydraulic cylinders pushing and pulling something that weighed several hundred pounds!!

Now, most of the time, they will install 50 amp auto reset breakers but, if they run out of those, guess what goes in? Yup! 30 amp auto reset breakers!

The Challenger, lucky enough had a 50 in it. But, when the hydraulic landing gear legs were installed and new 2800 psi pump, a 70 amp manual reset went in seperate from the 50 amp. The motor that turns my 2800 psi pump is the exact same motor that turns all of your 2200 pis pumps. So naturally, my pump motor works harder. Especially when it is trying to lift the front of the coach.

That is, I ran another 6 gage cable from the positve terminal of the battery to the battery post of the breaker. The 6 gage cable that was hooked to the center post on the Trombette solenoid switch on top of the motor went to the auxillary terminal of the 70 amp breaker. Now, the pump has it's own supply of voltage from the battery without anything else hooked to it.

To help avoid the breaker from kicking open, keep all of those large nuts on those lugs snug. Especially, the chassis ground connection at the battery and the chassis ground connection the the ground lug on the side of the Trombetta. Also, test and maintain the battery.

If any one has any questions, I'll be lurking.

Dale

[sreigle]

When we first bought our 2003 3295RK we had this same problem. Our dealer called Keystone and was told to install a larger circuit breaker, which they then sent to the dealer. So, I agree with the others and have also asked Don to send me that pdf document. We do not have this problem in the new Montana but I want to have the info at hand.

[richfaa]

I mentioned in another thread that our dealer installs the larger breaker when one comes in failed. I have the larger breaker in my spare parts bin and will install it when the OEM one fails.

[rickety]

Ditto what Steve and Rich said. I had to install a larger circuit breaker on my 3280RL. Will probably have ot do the same for the 3400 shen we get it. Have the breaker on hand.

[sreigle]

Rickety, the breaker in this 3400 has thus far caused no problem. so far.

[richfaa]

The breaker on 0ur 06 3400..81/2 months old has not failed.it has has however tripped more than once.Remembering what Dale(MIMF2) has told us on several occasions we did purchase a 80 amp auto reset breaker from our Dealer and it is in our spare bin (it was not cheap) and we do not bring in all our slides without letting up on the switch once or twice thereby preventing over heating and breaker tripping. We have not had a breaker trip since we started to do this...

[Driftwoodgal]

We have the same problem, and will be visiting our dealership soon. Once ours stops you have to back the slides back out and start all over again.

[rickety]

Think I will purchase the 80 amp Circ. Brkr and keep it in the spares box, ala Rich. Glad to hear that the breakers are holding pretty well.

[Cat320]

We have always run all four in/out without stopping and without a problem...yet.

[Driftwoodgal]

Bert and Betty,

The key word is YET. We didn't have a problem at first, but do now. Here's hoping you don't have any trouble with yours.