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Old 10-11-2018, 09:29 AM   #21
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Trash has become a blight on our planet and unfortunately, most of it now is plastics. These plastics have a half like similar to U-235 with styrofoam even longer. Our town has single stream recycling plus garbage and a separate set of bins for demolition debris. There are at least 3 separate trash pick up companies for those that don't, want to make a trip to the transfer staion. And trash still lines the roads with filtered (a plastic) cigarette butts leading the way .

This isn't a political problem but a problem where people wont take personal responsibility and seems to be at least endemic for the US. But with that said - consider a trip to a 'garden country like Egypt or Colombia or Brazil which will apall your cleanliness sensitivies
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Old 10-11-2018, 02:41 PM   #22
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I was truly avoiding coming back to this thread but I am going to try to take a constructive path.

I love this country warts and all. Rather than complain about a problem do something about it. Run for office, volunteer, engage civically in your community. I will commit to leaving a place as good if not better regarding trash when I leave. Maybe others on this thread would commit to the same. That is how movements get started. Granted we shouldn't need a movement to clean up behind ourselves but clearly we do.

So now that we have that out of the way how to spread that responsiblity that some of us have clearly missed in our upbringing. Well calling people names or worse yet referring to their children (regardless of how old they are) as brats is not the way to get it done. No faster way to achieve DEFCON1 then to tell some stranger that their kids are brats. Remember that you catch more flies with honey than with vinegar. Think globally but act locally. I will do my part and hopefully someone else will join in and do theirs. Before you know it we are making a change.
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Old 10-11-2018, 05:02 PM   #23
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We try to take out more than we bring in. Always will bend down to grab items blowing around a parking lot.

I just can’t believe that people will walk by items on the ground, just step over them or walk around them??
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Old 10-19-2018, 02:02 AM   #24
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how about all the filters that smokers dump on the ground?

they will never decompose.
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Old 10-19-2018, 06:37 AM   #25
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Originally Posted by mtlakejim View Post
This post sounds way to political for this forum.
You are correct, so let's get it back on "sitting around the campfire". Anytime we are in a slot at any campground, I ALWAYS walk around and pick up even the smallest pieces of debris (cig butts, small wrappers, things that are almost too small to even notice). I make any campground cleaner when we leave than when we arrived. As to the OP, by going back to glass "for deposit" containers for most everything, we could help reduce the plastic fouling up our world. Most stuff could be sold in cardboard & paper containers then transferred to permanent glass when arrive at home. I say "most" but with all the space age materials to retard spoilage it may never be viable for sure. Plastic can be reduced by rethinking how stuff is packaged. Go back to all returnable deposit bottles. Even liquor and wine, milk and juice. Everything. Force people to want to return them. And yes, it will cost more to handle.
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Old 10-20-2018, 03:29 AM   #26
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We are Park Hosts at one of the more popular parks in Texas,I see a big improvement over some of the private parks, my biggest gripe is cigarette buts and tops off the plastic bottles
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Old 10-20-2018, 10:04 AM   #27
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We live in the Blueridge Mountains of Va. We are hunters. There was a guy who worked in the shop who said people could carry a full beer can up the mountain but couldn’t carry an empty one down the mountain. I think he was on to something. You can go up the most remote mountain here and find trash someone has left. WHY!
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I come from a family of hunters, When I was 10 years old my dad and I were sitting way up on a mountain deer hunting. After a few hours I pulled out a candy bar and ate it. When I finished I buried the wrapper under a little dirt and a rock. When I was done my dad said, do you think this place is beautiful? I said yes, he said would you like to see garbage all around here? I said no, he said then pick up the candy wrapper! If you pack it in you pack it out. That was all it took. I've lived by that philosophy the rest of my life. Parents don't care like they used to!
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Old 10-20-2018, 10:23 AM   #28
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Think about it. An empty beer can and a candy wrapper is a lot lighter than a full beer can and a candy bar.
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