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08-23-2008, 04:43 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Texas City
Posts: 5,736
M.O.C. #7673
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ULSD
When will all stations pumping diesel be required to have ULSD? Does anyone know?
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08-23-2008, 04:50 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Macomb
Posts: 293
M.O.C. #5709
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I don't know for sure but I was told that January 2009 all stations selling on road diesel will have to be ULSD compliant. Again, just what I was told.
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08-23-2008, 06:00 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Santa Fe Springs
Posts: 4,189
M.O.C. #639
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Collyfornya has nothing but ULSD.
That stuff stinks! doesn't smell like diesel at the exost pipe. the fumes from this stuff are probably worst to inhale than the old stuff. the same goes for gas on smell, gas used to smell good, untill the changed to this new stuff.
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08-24-2008, 03:18 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Lobelville
Posts: 2,128
M.O.C. #6650
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I read someplace it was 2010, I haven't had a problem finding ULSD in many months. It looks different also, and I haven't found any difference in MPG or HP. As bad as I hate change we have no choice, a small minority of people make things hard on everyone. And in IMHO most haven't ever owned a Diesel engine. GBY...
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08-24-2008, 05:31 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Kelowna
Posts: 1,475
M.O.C. #6237
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Washington, BC and I think all of Canada is ULSD. Mexico is suppose to have ULSD by summer of 2009.
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08-24-2008, 08:22 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Kville
Posts: 2,865
M.O.C. #7871
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From Wikipedia:
[edit] United States
As of September 2006, most on-highway diesel fuel sold at retail locations in the United States is ULSD[4].
Ultra-low sulfur diesel was proposed by EPA as a new standard for the sulfur content in on-road diesel fuel sold in the United States since October 15, 2006, except for rural Alaska. California required it since September 1, 2006, and rural Alaska will transition all diesel to ULSD in 2010. This new regulation applies to all diesel fuel, diesel fuel additives and distillate fuels blended with diesel for on-road use, such as kerosene, however, it does not yet apply to train locomotives, marine, or off road uses. By December 1, 2010, all highway diesel will be ULSD. Non-road diesel transitioned to 500 ppm sulfur in 2007, and to ULSD in 2010. Locomotive and marine diesel also transitioned to 500 ppm sulfur in 2007, and to ULSD in 2012. There are exemptions for small refiners of nonroad, locomotive and marine diesel that allow for 500 ppm diesel to remain in the system until 2014. After December 1, 2014 all highway, nonroad, locomotive and marine diesel produced and imported will be ULSD.
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08-25-2008, 09:36 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Oceanside
Posts: 20,028
M.O.C. #20
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Thanks for the refresher on the dates of transition. I could not remember those dates.
For whatever it's worth, we've had to use ulsd since early June of 2007. So far, from coast to coast we've found exactly 5 stations without ulsd. Two of them, interestingly, were Pilot Travel Centers. So, finding ULSD has not been a problem for us. We've put 36,000 miles on the truck in that time.
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08-26-2008, 05:27 AM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Macomb
Posts: 293
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We spent part of last winter in Texas, primarily in the RGV and took notice that most fuel stations were not selling USLD. We didn't need it then but for anyone who did it was a little hard to find. Flying J, TA, Loves were all selling 500 PPM. I think that's where I asked about when they had to change over to USLD and was told by January 2009.
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08-27-2008, 03:59 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: McKinney
Posts: 7,181
M.O.C. #6433
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I can't remember the last time I saw a station around here that did not have the ULSD sign on the pump.
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Riley, our Golden
2007 3075RL (recently sold, currently without)
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08-27-2008, 08:29 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: St. John
Posts: 591
M.O.C. #800
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Speaking of diesel in the RGV, I read somewhere the other day that Mexican authorities at border crossings are impounding U. S. pick ups that have auxillary fuel tanks on them whether there's fuel in them or not. It seems they think Mexico is losing revenue or something like that. If it is part of the built in fuel system, ie: the second tank that Ford used to install, it's ok. If it's an "in bed" tank, bye-bye. There may have been a "flammable transport" issue involved, too
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08-27-2008, 03:03 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Texas City
Posts: 5,736
M.O.C. #7673
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Bob, that is true. The Mexican Government subsidizes fuel, so the $2 a gallon really cost $4 a gallon. So when us "gringos" run across and fill up, it's costing the Mexican Government $2 a gallon. I guess that is why they are clamping down.
Edited: Mexican Fuel
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