|
|
03-30-2018, 10:52 AM
|
#1
|
Montana Master
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Full Timer In Naples, Florida
Posts: 1,049
M.O.C. #15731
|
Sailun
Looking at new tires for the Monty and everybody talks down to china bombs and so do we. So I'm looking at Sailun because there suppose to be the best, But doing some research I found that Sailun tires are made in china. Am i missing something? If you have Sailuns, can you look and see what country are there origin.
__________________
2017, 3500 Ram Big Horn, 4x4, Crew Cab, DRW, Aisin Transmission, 4:10. Curt Q20, 2014 Mountaineer 331 RLT, Sailun's on the rv and truck.
|
|
|
03-30-2018, 11:05 AM
|
#2
|
Montana Fan
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: ALAMEDA
Posts: 227
M.O.C. #20448
|
China.
__________________
2017 Montana High Country 310RE
2017 Ram 2500 Diesel, 4 wd crew cab, slr, pulrite super glide, short bed, 2 ea 100 Ah LiFePO4 12 volt Deep Cycle Battery
|
|
|
03-30-2018, 12:06 PM
|
#3
|
Site Team
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Oro Valley
Posts: 3,933
M.O.C. #20477
|
Made in China but they are quality tires with a proven track record.
__________________
Zack and Donna plus Millie and Ranger
2018 3160RL
"Life is too short to stay indoors, enjoy the ride!"
|
|
|
03-30-2018, 05:51 PM
|
#4
|
Site Team
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Wilsey
Posts: 18,799
M.O.C. #11455
|
They are quality tires from China and currently are being dumped in the US and that's why they are so much cheaper.
|
|
|
03-30-2018, 08:27 PM
|
#5
|
Montana Master
Join Date: May 2017
Location: South East NC
Posts: 1,768
M.O.C. #19865
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by DQDick
They are quality tires from China and currently are being dumped in the US and that's why they are so much cheaper.
|
Not sure I would say "dumped" as they are higher priced than every other I looked at except the 2nd best at twice the price. Sailun has the best reputation of all and at $150 - $175 are well above all others except 2nd best. 2nd best is still surviving on brand loyalty as they are good and were the only good tires for heavy 5ers until about 7 years ago.
__________________
John & Patty
2022 3855 BR
2019 Lariat F350 4X4 Dually
|
|
|
03-31-2018, 09:19 AM
|
#6
|
Montana Master
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: North Ridgeville
Posts: 20,229
M.O.C. #2839
|
Might want to google "are sailun tires being dumped in the USA" also the new tariff laws will have a effect on pricing . Sailun may be a very good tire that is artificially being kept at a low price.
When we get home we are going to a large tire chain to see if they can get balance and install Sailun tires. What bothers me is when a product is half the price of another comparable product i need to understand why.
|
|
|
03-31-2018, 09:59 AM
|
#7
|
Montana Master
Join Date: May 2017
Location: South East NC
Posts: 1,768
M.O.C. #19865
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by richfaa
Might want to google "are sailun tires being dumped in the USA" also the new tariff laws will have a effect on pricing . Sailun may be a very good tire that is artificially being kept at a low price.
When we get home we are going to a large tire chain to see if they can get balance and install Sailun tires. What bothers me is when a product is half the price of another comparable product i need to understand why.
|
GY is twice the price for a few reasons. Until 7 - 8 years ago they were the only decent tire around. They also have to charge the approximately $125 per tire as insurance to pay the claims they promise to pay. Have to mention some have had very good luck with them and do not mind twice the price for 2nd best.
__________________
John & Patty
2022 3855 BR
2019 Lariat F350 4X4 Dually
|
|
|
03-31-2018, 10:35 AM
|
#8
|
Montana Master
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: North Ridgeville
Posts: 20,229
M.O.C. #2839
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by CaptnJohn
GY is twice the price for a few reasons. Until 7 - 8 years ago they were the only decent tire around. They also have to charge the approximately $125 per tire as insurance to pay the claims they promise to pay. Have to mention some have had very good luck with them and do not mind twice the price for 2nd best.
|
Could that then mean that Sailun may not have good customer service.We know GY does . I for one will pay the extra but there is no evidence that GY G614 is second best. I will give Sailun a preliminary "as good as " A dealer that handles the Sailun is a good place for information on the service offered and the durability.I also wonder why so many dealers do not handle the tire as they have been around long enough.
Check shows that Wall mart handles Sailun tires and can order what you want. There is a Sailun tire dealer in Medina ,Ohio not to far from our S&B. We will visit them when we return.
|
|
|
03-31-2018, 03:48 PM
|
#9
|
Montana Master
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Hixson
Posts: 3,436
M.O.C. #11397
|
When it comes to quality I don't feel that either is playing "second fiddle" to the other. Presently I would buy the Sailuns because of cost but if the tables turned I would buy the 614s.
BTW, most any independent tire dealer can get the S637s in 24-48 hours and in many cases overnight. Doesn't have to be a Sailun dealer.
__________________
2018.5 Montana 3791RD
Full Timers 9/1/2010 through 1/16/2020.
|
|
|
03-31-2018, 06:16 PM
|
#10
|
Montana Master
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Willis
Posts: 896
M.O.C. #20587
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by WeBeFulltime
When it comes to quality I don't feel that either is playing "second fiddle" to the other. Presently I would buy the Sailuns because of cost but if the tables turned I would buy the 614s.
BTW, most any independent tire dealer can get the S637s in 24-48 hours and in many cases overnight. Doesn't have to be a Sailun dealer.
|
My local Discount Tire will not get them for me. When I was considering the Solitude and their Westlake tires, I checked around our local. Nobody would order them. When I need to replace the Sailun tires on our Montana, Will look to Simpletire.com.
__________________
2018 Montana 3791RD (SOLD)
2017 Ram 3500 DRW 6.7 Cummins Aisin, B&W RVK3600 (SOLD)
|
|
|
03-31-2018, 04:27 PM
|
#11
|
Montana Master
Join Date: May 2017
Location: new caney
Posts: 1,050
M.O.C. #19873
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by richfaa
Could that then mean that Sailun may not have good customer service.We know GY does . I for one will pay the extra but there is no evidence that GY G614 is second best. I will give Sailun a preliminary "as good as " A dealer that handles the Sailun is a good place for information on the service offered and the durability.I also wonder why so many dealers do not handle the tire as they have been around long enough.
Check shows that Wall mart handles Sailun tires and can order what you want. There is a Sailun tire dealer in Medina ,Ohio not to far from our S&B. We will visit them when we return.
|
You can get a set from Simple Tire for 552.19 delivered to your door or to an tire dealer locally that can install them for you. Just check with an tire dealer you prefer and see if they will accept delivery or Simple Tire has a list of tire dealers in your area they know will take delivery and install for you. The price i stated is for 235x85x16 tires. I have the same 3402 model you have and this is what fits perfectly. This 10% off sale is thru April 4th but they come on sale i think often.Most tire dealers will hold them till you get back.
|
|
|
03-31-2018, 04:53 PM
|
#12
|
Montana Master
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: West Richland
Posts: 1,253
M.O.C. #17164
|
There are a lot of Sailun threads that are very lengthy on this forum. Before I bought mine I did a lot of research online. The only blowout that I could document from a Sailun tire was used on a dual rear wheel pickup truck and the tire was rated for trailer use only. I think Goodyear makes good tires at least G614's some of there other's not so good, but if you Google it you will find lots of threads talking about blowouts. As stated before good year has been willing to help with repair costs either partially or fully for damage done to peoples trailers. I was amazed at the actual weight per tire compared to the Trail Kings that I took off of my Montana. So far I have had no problem with the Sailun tires other than I think they ride quite a bit stiffer with the higher air pressure rating. The great thing about America as you can buy whichever brand you prefer.
Happy roads to you.
Tom Marty
__________________
|
|
|
03-31-2018, 06:43 PM
|
#13
|
Montana Master
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: North Ridgeville
Posts: 20,229
M.O.C. #2839
|
We actually have a Dealer nearby who is a sailun dealer . They would have experience with the durability, Reliability and the service provided by Sailun. I will give them a call Monday to see how long they have sold sailuns and what their experience is with them.
If Sailun's prove to be "as good as " the G614 I will have no problem in purchasing them. Excuse me if I do not rely on post on face book or other social media as the determining factor on the quality of the tire.
BTW our G614's are in excellent condition.We have plenty of thread left and the wear is even which I contribute to the Mor Ryde IS system. We will as usual have them expected by a professional for any signs of dry rot or other issues.We do that every year.The G6 14 were built in April 2013 and have about 45K on them. We have slowed down in recent years.The result of the inspection will determine the need for new tires.
|
|
|
03-31-2018, 09:35 PM
|
#14
|
Site Team
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Carmichael - CA
Posts: 7,370
M.O.C. #4831
|
No matter how good that Goodyear warrantee might be for the 614's, it ends after 4 years from the manufactured date on the sidewall. Ask me how I know.
__________________
Carl (n Susan)
There is more to life than fuel mileage.
2012 Montana 3700RL Big Sky Package towed by a 2015 Ford F350 6.7L PSD 4WD CC LWB
|
|
|
04-02-2018, 03:00 AM
|
#15
|
Montana Master
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: Auburn
Posts: 879
M.O.C. #18474
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by carl n susan
No matter how good that Goodyear warrantee might be for the 614's, it ends after 4 years from the manufactured date on the sidewall. Ask me how I know.
|
I was told the same when talking to GY after my 614 blew a fist sized hole in the sidewall. However, GY did send me a check for half the price of the tire that blew out even though the cause was undetermined. That helped as my rig is only two years old and has 614s on it.
Now about the Sailun S637s being made in China. Yes they are, but they are the only Chinese tire that meets BOTH the US import and export specs. Most only meet the import as oddly as it sounds. That being said, make sure you have the clearance between the tires you will need as one size of the Sailuns are taller than the other and may decrease the gap between the tires for those that use X-chocks. Most people do not realize that Sailun S637s now come in two sizes. 235/80/16 and 235/85/16..
Attached is the load chart of you would like to see them.
__________________
2020 Montana 3790RD Legacy EditionOnan, TST TPMS, TrailAir pin, Discs,
2013 F350 DRW 4x4 CC LBViair 10007, Ride-Rites, Westin HDx, 12k Smittybilt
|
|
|
04-02-2018, 04:28 AM
|
#16
|
Montana Master
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Full Timer In Naples, Florida
Posts: 1,049
M.O.C. #15731
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Golfmedik
I was told the same when talking to GY after my 614 blew a fist sized hole in the sidewall. However, GY did send me a check for half the price of the tire that blew out even though the cause was undetermined. That helped as my rig is only two years old and has 614s on it.
Now about the Sailun S637s being made in China. Yes they are, but they are the only Chinese tire that meets BOTH the US import and export specs. Most only meet the import as oddly as it sounds. That being said, make sure you have the clearance between the tires you will need as one size of the Sailuns are taller than the other and may decrease the gap between the tires for those that use X-chocks. Most people do not realize that Sailun S637s now come in two sizes. 235/80/16 and 235/85/16..
Attached is the load chart of you would like to see them.
|
Ok. I see the chart has different load sets. I have a 2014 Mountaineer 331 rlt. I am assuming that the rim that came on this unit is only rated to 80 PSI. cold so i would be ok to still get these tires even if i cant get them to 110PSI? And it shows an (E) after the weight am I to assume its reducing the G rated to E if i can only get to 80 PSI?
__________________
2017, 3500 Ram Big Horn, 4x4, Crew Cab, DRW, Aisin Transmission, 4:10. Curt Q20, 2014 Mountaineer 331 RLT, Sailun's on the rv and truck.
|
|
|
04-02-2018, 05:15 AM
|
#17
|
Montana Master
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: Auburn
Posts: 879
M.O.C. #18474
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Eagleback
Ok. I see the chart has different load sets. I have a 2014 Mountaineer 331 rlt. I am assuming that the rim that came on this unit is only rated to 80 PSI. cold so i would be ok to still get these tires even if i cant get them to 110PSI? And it shows an (E) after the weight am I to assume its reducing the G rated to E if i can only get to 80 PSI?
|
That would be correct. The inside of your rims(usually on the spokes) will be stamped "110PSI" if they are compatible with that load range. If they are 6 lug wheels, most are not capable, but if 8 lug, then very possible. Either way I would still put in metal valve stems as the rubber ones tend to fail more these days. Plus, they are required for 110psi as rubber ones are only rated for 80psi tires.
__________________
2020 Montana 3790RD Legacy EditionOnan, TST TPMS, TrailAir pin, Discs,
2013 F350 DRW 4x4 CC LBViair 10007, Ride-Rites, Westin HDx, 12k Smittybilt
|
|
|
04-02-2018, 07:43 AM
|
#18
|
Montana Master
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Full Timer In Naples, Florida
Posts: 1,049
M.O.C. #15731
|
Is it seen with the wheel on or would i have to remove it?
__________________
2017, 3500 Ram Big Horn, 4x4, Crew Cab, DRW, Aisin Transmission, 4:10. Curt Q20, 2014 Mountaineer 331 RLT, Sailun's on the rv and truck.
|
|
|
04-02-2018, 10:06 AM
|
#19
|
Montana Master
Join Date: May 2017
Location: new caney
Posts: 1,050
M.O.C. #19873
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Golfmedik
I was told the same when talking to GY after my 614 blew a fist sized hole in the sidewall. However, GY did send me a check for half the price of the tire that blew out even though the cause was undetermined. That helped as my rig is only two years old and has 614s on it.
Now about the Sailun S637s being made in China. Yes they are, but they are the only Chinese tire that meets BOTH the US import and export specs. Most only meet the import as oddly as it sounds. That being said, make sure you have the clearance between the tires you will need as one size of the Sailuns are taller than the other and may decrease the gap between the tires for those that use X-chocks. Most people do not realize that Sailun S637s now come in two sizes. 235/80/16 and 235/85/16..
Attached is the load chart of you would like to see them.
|
Your chart shows maximun 4080 pounds at 110 psi . The tires now have 4400 pounds at 110 psi. I guess Sailun has not updated there chart yet.
|
|
|
04-02-2018, 10:31 AM
|
#20
|
Montana Master
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: Auburn
Posts: 879
M.O.C. #18474
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Texan
Your chart shows maximun 4080 pounds at 110 psi . The tires now have 4400 pounds at 110 psi. I guess Sailun has not updated there chart yet.
|
No one I know of has a different chart out yet. I searched a couple of weeks ago when we put new ones on a friend's Sandpiper and could not find one. I did find this even though it it not a load chart, just a max.
__________________
2020 Montana 3790RD Legacy EditionOnan, TST TPMS, TrailAir pin, Discs,
2013 F350 DRW 4x4 CC LBViair 10007, Ride-Rites, Westin HDx, 12k Smittybilt
|
|
|
|
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off
|
|
|
|
» Recent Threads |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|