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09-25-2008, 04:31 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Sep 2006
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yep, the weight police are well represented, one reason i normally don't post, but i thought what the h---, you guys really need something to yell about, makes your day complete. As for information, the 3/4ton answer is information, like it or not.. everyone needs to make their own choice, regardless.
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09-25-2008, 06:35 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Snohomish
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What I find rather humerous is how little difference there is between a 3/4 and 1 ton truck that is left out in this discussion. One could get the impression that a 3/4 Ton truck is a toy Tonka truck and a 1 Ton truck is a Kenworth. Same engine, same transmission, same frame, same body, same bed. A big portion of the difference is slightly heavier springs, in the rear only. Some have slightly heavier rear axles and bearings but if the brakes are not bigger and heavier one could get a distorted view of what of anything has been gained. In 2003 when I bought my F250 new, the F350 dually had less rated towing capacity than the F250 SRW. There are bigger differences now but one has to do their homework on the details before making gross generalizations. The devil is in the details.
I've read that more 4WD pickups go into the ditch when the roads are slick than 2WD vehicles do. Why?? Because the drivers think they are bullet proof driving a 4WD vehicle and as a result drive unsafely. I would caution anyone away from getting a false sense of security just because they have a 1 Ton vs 3/4 Ton truck when towing a large and heavy 5th wheel. Neither will stop on a dime.
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09-26-2008, 04:35 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Lone Tree
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Quote:
quote:Originally posted by Dean A Van Peursem
I've read that more 4WD pickups go into the ditch when the roads are slick than 2WD vehicles do. Why?? Because the drivers think they are bullet proof driving a 4WD vehicle and as a result drive unsafely. I would caution anyone away from getting a false sense of security just because they have a 1 Ton vs 3/4 Ton truck when towing a large and heavy 5th wheel. Neither will stop on a dime.
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hahahahaha - that is funny - NOT.
So using your interjection Dean, I should research to find exactly the equipment I need to get the job done, then pick something that is less than qualified so I don't become overconfident! hahahahhaah - "keep me on my toes so to speak?".
Next time my DW asks me why I'm using one of her butter knives to turn a screw, I'll tell her if I used a screwdriver I might start to feel like I was a MECHANIC! hahahhaha - C'mon guys, you're all just itchin to start a fight on this one, yet all has been said that needs to be said for the guy that posted.
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09-26-2008, 04:39 AM
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Montana Master
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Dean, you have hit it exactly on point, my 3/4 (the year I bought it) had a factory spec of 1200 lbs more payload than the 1 ton. Why I don't know. The 1 ton springs are on my unit as a factory upgrade, the brakes, axles, etc., are the same part number. The only difference was the rims with an offset for duals. The GCVWR is the same. I guess that all Montana owners should be driving a 4500 or 5500 to keep everything within spec. Each person should do their own research and buy accordingly. I for one would never accept the comments on an internet forum as the final word, there are to many personalities involved.
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09-26-2008, 08:12 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Snohomish
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M.O.C. #5583
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Not looking to start a fight here at all. Just trying to keep things in perspective so that dollar bills aren't dropping out of our rear pockets while we are picking up pennies.
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09-26-2008, 04:09 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Kville
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Quote:
quote:Originally posted by JimF
Dean, you have hit it exactly on point, my 3/4 (the year I bought it) had a factory spec of 1200 lbs more payload than the 1 ton. Why I don't know. The 1 ton springs are on my unit as a factory upgrade, the brakes, axles, etc., are the same part number. The only difference was the rims with an offset for duals. The GCVWR is the same. I guess that all Montana owners should be driving a 4500 or 5500 to keep everything within spec. Each person should do their own research and buy accordingly. I for one would never accept the comments on an internet forum as the final word, there are to many personalities involved.
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You must drive one old truck. Today, at least for GM, the only way a 3/4 could possibly have more payload capacity is if the 3/4 ton is a gasser the one ton is a diesel srw. GCWR (there is no such abreviation as GCVWR) is the same only on 3/4 ton and one ton srw diesels...much higher with the dually.
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09-26-2008, 04:15 PM
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Montana Master
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Location: Cedar Rapids
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This subject has been brought up many times and really has been beaten to death. It makes no difference what the weight ratings are if you're happy with it. It makes no difference what the structure of your tow vehicle is like, extra springs, air bags, etc., if you're happy with it. This subject will spiral out of control if it continues like it is.
Orv
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