|
10-24-2013, 05:02 AM
|
#1
|
Seasoned Camper
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Bakersfield
Posts: 64
M.O.C. #13291
|
Black Tank Flush System Update
I just spoke with a Keystone rep this morning regarding the Montana black tank flush systems. He indicated there are no moving parts (no spinning) with their flush systems. According to him they use the "no fuss flush" in all of their black tank flush systems. Based on the results I have had I will be installing the spinning Tornado in both of my black tanks.
|
|
|
10-24-2013, 06:40 AM
|
#2
|
Site Team
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Wilsey
Posts: 18,799
M.O.C. #11455
|
__________________
Dick, Joyce, Diego, Picatso and Gustav
2017 3720 RL, and 2013 HC 343RL
Pullrite Hitch, IS, Disk Brakes, 3rd AC, Winegard Traveler, Bathroom door mod, Dometic 320, couch for desk swap, replaced chairs, sun screens, added awnings, etc.
|
|
|
10-24-2013, 08:05 AM
|
#3
|
Montana Fan
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Ronan
Posts: 385
M.O.C. #7615
|
Just like mine, It just quit and no amount of soaking cleaned it.
soaked it for days with water, soap, cleaner pooh eater, and with flush valve off and air direct to the black tank there was nothing. So now there is No Fuss
|
|
|
10-24-2013, 09:48 AM
|
#4
|
Montana Master
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Copperas Cove
Posts: 1,426
M.O.C. #12096
|
Well at least they are correct on one thing. No moving parts, that includes water too I guess....
|
|
|
10-26-2013, 04:29 AM
|
#5
|
Montana Fan
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Jefferson,
Posts: 264
M.O.C. #13170
|
Well, now I'm curious. If there are no moving parts, just how does this system work (or not work) ? Spray nozzles msybe?
|
|
|
10-26-2013, 05:04 AM
|
#6
|
Montana Master
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Winfield
Posts: 7,327
M.O.C. #6846
|
Quote:
quote:Originally posted by Allen in MT
Just like mine, It just quit and no amount of soaking cleaned it.
soaked it for days with water, soap, cleaner pooh eater, and with flush valve off and air direct to the black tank there was nothing. So now there is No Fuss
|
A wild stab here, but other models with black tank flush had an in-line anti-siphon valve that was prone to failure. It may remedy your situation. I believe in a 3400 that it is located between the shower and the pantry where the pocket door is located. Our rig actually had a cover in the pantry that shielded a rough cut hole that allowed access to the anti-siphon valve.
Bingo
__________________
Bingo and Cathy - Our adventures begin in the hills of WV. We are blessed by our 2014 3850FL Big Sky (previous 2011 3750FL and 2007 3400RL) that we pull with a 2007 Chevy Silverado Classic DRW CC dually.
|
|
|
10-26-2013, 06:49 AM
|
#7
|
Seasoned Camper
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Bakersfield
Posts: 64
M.O.C. #13291
|
Yes. I looked at the "No Fuss Flush" on line and that's exactly how it works. No spinning parts just a stationary nozzle spraying different directions. I had CW install the tornado yesterday. It has 4.5 stars on Amazon for effectiveness so we will see.
Quote:
quote:Originally posted by hickory
Well, now I'm curious. If there are no moving parts, just how does this system work (or not work) ? Spray nozzles maybe?
|
|
|
|
10-26-2013, 07:24 AM
|
#8
|
Montana Fan
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Ronan
Posts: 385
M.O.C. #7615
|
[/quote]
A wild stab here, but other models with black tank flush had an in-line anti-siphon valve that was prone to failure. It may remedy your situation. I believe in a 3400 that it is located between the shower and the pantry where the pocket door is located. Our rig actually had a cover in the pantry that shielded a rough cut hole that allowed access to the anti-siphon valve.
Bingo
[/quote]
Yes that is where mine is located, and the hole is covered with a cover, however the hole was way off and looked to be made with a fist, not cut. I did take the anti-siphon off and tried 60lb of air which pressured up on the down ward side of hose directly to tank and nothing and also coupled up a hose where the anit-siphon went and then hooked water to it and just pressured up, so I just make sure it is clean by dumping and filling and dumping again.
It's just when something is broken I like to get it fixed, but then the tank and toilet will work just fine without it.
|
|
|
10-26-2013, 10:19 AM
|
#9
|
Montana Master
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location:
Posts: 724
M.O.C. #10948
|
Quote:
quote: Our rig actually had a cover in the pantry that shielded a rough cut hole that allowed access to the anti-siphon valve.
Bingo
|
I'm not sure where I should be looking Bingo. Assuming your old rig and mine were built similar, where exactly should I look for the access hole and the valve you mention? Which pantry?
|
|
|
10-26-2013, 10:45 AM
|
#10
|
Montana Master
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Winfield
Posts: 7,327
M.O.C. #6846
|
I was referring to our old 3400 for the location of the check valve. I am not sure where it is at in the 3750FL.
Bingo
|
|
|
10-26-2013, 10:53 AM
|
#11
|
Montana Master
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Murrieta
Posts: 5,816
M.O.C. #9257
|
My 2006 3500RL came with the tornado and I'm sure glad I have it. No problems so far, so no complaints. I'm guessing there's an antisiphon in there somewhere, but I also use one at the inlet prior to the incoming hose and believe it can't hurt. So far, so good. But I do close off the black tank while the sprayer is on, let the black tank fill, THEN empty the contents. It can can a few of these before I'm happy with the exiting water.
From my web searches the tornado just pressure sprays in all directions of the interior in an attempt to spray the walls cleaner than not. No moving parts needed other the the water being sprayed around. I wish I had tornados in the gray tanks, but I'j just not that ambitious.
|
|
|
|
Thread Tools |
Search this Thread |
|
|
Display Modes |
Linear Mode
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off
|
|
|
|
» Recent Threads |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|