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12-25-2014, 10:40 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Ramona (San Diego County)
Posts: 178
M.O.C. #15919
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Short bed no slider
I seem to be ok with not having a slider hitch with my old Cougar 277. Now that I have my 310ret do I need a slider hitch? Look like I have 80 deg before hitting the trailer.
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12-26-2014, 02:49 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Arroyo City
Posts: 3,110
M.O.C. #13395
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I'd say not if your careful. If you crank around too far, you'll be buying a new back window
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12-26-2014, 03:04 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Colorado Springs
Posts: 3,335
M.O.C. #10496
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I wouldn't want to find out the hard way.
I have one so that is one less thing I have to think about or remember.
BTW, mine is a Pullrite. No levers to pull and nothing to forget (except the tug test) 
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2010 3150RL
LevelUp, Dual 6 volt batteries, Progressive Industries EMS HW50C, Honda EU2000i Generator, Bridgestone Duravis R250 tires, Torklift Glowstep Revolution Stairs, LED Tail lights
2015 RAM 3500 Laramie SRW LB CC Cummins 6.7L Aisin Trans B&W RVK3600
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12-26-2014, 03:22 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Lake Gaston
Posts: 8,773
M.O.C. #12156
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Good to do the research ahead of time! Hopefully you don't need one.
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Mike and Lorraine
2002 3655 FL, 2005 3650RK
2010 3665RE, 2015 3910FB
F350 crew cab dually 6.7
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12-26-2014, 05:19 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: McKinney
Posts: 7,165
M.O.C. #6433
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Good friend knocked out his back window of his short bed with an older SOB. But it had squared off lower front corners. After he bought his Montana with the contoured front he had no more problems. But I think he was also much more careful making tight back in turns also.
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Bill & Patricia
Riley, our Golden
2007 3075RL (recently sold, currently without)
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12-26-2014, 06:33 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Pensacola (mail forward service)
Posts: 3,198
M.O.C. #13740
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People will tend to do stupid things at the wrong time. Which option is easier to digest? John
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2012 F350 6.7 L dually, 2013 3800RE with 6 pt leveling, Sumitomo 17.5" load range h tires, Samsung 18 cu ft residential fridge, 8k Morryde I.S. with disc brakes. Full timing since 2012.
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12-26-2014, 06:35 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Ione
Posts: 582
M.O.C. #11371
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I have a short bed F250 and a 2011 Big Sky 3580RL. My hitch is a B & W Companion that does not slide. I can make very sharp turns when backing up, I even installed 3 X-Factor cross braces so I could make sharp turns. Never a problem.
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12-26-2014, 03:11 PM
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Site Team
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Wilsey
Posts: 18,799
M.O.C. #11455
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I have a slider, but in the last three years we've never used it even when we backed in a tight U. I do have Joyce outside and watching and take it slow when we do something like that. I'm pretty sure the right contours affecting the trailer in one way and the truck in another could cause things to go bad so we watch it closely.
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Dick, Joyce, Diego, Picatso and Gustav
2017 3720 RL, and 2013 HC 343RL
Pullrite Hitch, IS, Disk Brakes, 3rd AC, Winegard Traveler, Bathroom door mod, Dometic 320, couch for desk swap, replaced chairs, sun screens, added awnings, etc.
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12-26-2014, 03:32 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Olympia
Posts: 1,058
M.O.C. #9441
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I had a slider on my short box Dodge and still popped the back window.. What happened is it popped while pulling forward while turning tight in a turn around.. Needless to say I have a different hitch...
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2020 Ram 3500, 2022 Luxe 38GFB,2500w Solar with Victron equipment, Gen Y Pinbox
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12-26-2014, 04:19 PM
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Site Team
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Omaha
Posts: 6,750
M.O.C. #7560
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We have a short bed and a Reese slider. We now have a 2013 3582RL and so far have not had to use the slider but you can see what can happen from Drifty1's photo. I have the slider "just incase". With the newer nose caps on the Montana's and other units it is a lot easier to make those sharper turns BUT don't get over confident and think you can make any turn you want because you could end up like Drifty1!
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12-27-2014, 04:29 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Denver
Posts: 1,045
M.O.C. #5329
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I have a slider hitch, but in 14 years of towing, have never used it.
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12-27-2014, 04:40 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Colorado Springs
Posts: 3,335
M.O.C. #10496
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Quote:
quote:Originally posted by Drifty1
I had a slider on my short box Dodge and still popped the back window.. What happened is it popped while pulling forward while turning tight in a turn around.. Needless to say I have a different hitch...
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What was the brand of slider was it that allowed this to happen?
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2010 3150RL
LevelUp, Dual 6 volt batteries, Progressive Industries EMS HW50C, Honda EU2000i Generator, Bridgestone Duravis R250 tires, Torklift Glowstep Revolution Stairs, LED Tail lights
2015 RAM 3500 Laramie SRW LB CC Cummins 6.7L Aisin Trans B&W RVK3600
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12-27-2014, 10:21 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Olympia
Posts: 1,058
M.O.C. #9441
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Reese 16k slider... But it did not happen backing up,it happened while driving forward so the hitch had nothing to do with the busted window.. It was caused by the Dodge turning short and some potholes in the lot I was turning around in..
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12-27-2014, 01:22 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Colorado Springs
Posts: 3,335
M.O.C. #10496
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Quote:
quote:Originally posted by Drifty1
Reese 16k slider... But it did not happen backing up,it happened while driving forward so the hitch had nothing to do with the busted window.. It was caused by the Dodge turning short and some potholes in the lot I was turning around in..
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Understood. Bummer that happened to you. I'll bet that ruined your day.
FWIW, my Pullrite slides going forward or backward. Hope that never happens to you again!
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2010 3150RL
LevelUp, Dual 6 volt batteries, Progressive Industries EMS HW50C, Honda EU2000i Generator, Bridgestone Duravis R250 tires, Torklift Glowstep Revolution Stairs, LED Tail lights
2015 RAM 3500 Laramie SRW LB CC Cummins 6.7L Aisin Trans B&W RVK3600
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12-28-2014, 01:40 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Frostproof, FL USA
Posts: 2,362
M.O.C. #13272
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If I am not mistaken my "short" bed F350 is just over 6 1/2 feet. I wouldn't swear to it but didn't older trucks have short beds that were closer to 6' long?
I guess the key is the newer style slanted and corner cut fronts on the fivers. Just yesterday we were parked at a tight angle while I stepped inside a CG office for a minute. When I came out I couldn't help but notice that my front cap was still about 5" or more from my back window.
Have a slider, never used it.
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Previous: 2008 Montana 3400RL & 2014 3725RL
Current: Full Time 2022 SOB TT Toy Hauler
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12-29-2014, 02:30 AM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Crawfordville
Posts: 146
M.O.C. #4328
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I have a short bed truck with a dent in the cab. Which when I purchased the RV the salesman said would not happen. I was lucky I didn't break my window. I now have a sidewinder pin box installed after denting my cab. I know now I can't hit the truck.
See this links;
http://www.reeseprod.com/products/pi...qpwlZEuSVhdCFl
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12-31-2014, 06:08 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Burney
Posts: 107
M.O.C. #11789
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And that's exactly why my new D'max is a long bed. If it wasn't, the only hitch I would use is a Pullrite slider. Better to have it and not need it, than need it and not have it.
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01-02-2015, 10:50 AM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Homosassa
Posts: 307
M.O.C. #12211
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I have never used my slider.
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01-04-2015, 07:34 AM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: fort myers
Posts: 126
M.O.C. #5896
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I have a short bed Dodge MegaCab with a Superglide Hitch. Do I absolutely need the slider? With the Superglide I know I can turn 90 degrees if necessary and I can drive and backup at camp grounds without worrying about the trailer hitting the truck cab. I have used this hitch with a 2003 and 2012 Montana and it's great. Any short bed TV of mine will have an auto slider.
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