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Old 08-21-2006, 07:00 AM   #1
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Voltage readings inside the Trailer ?

During the hot days my Volt meter pluged into a Kitchen outlet tells me I am losing Voltage during the heat of the day. How much voltage loss would be accepted as normal loss ?

I read as low as 106- 108 Volts while the Air Conditioner and Frig is running. Water heater was not on.



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Old 08-21-2006, 07:12 AM   #2
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Hi,
That reading is just one circuit, and one with a load on it, you should go to the main supply to truly have a reading for your Mountaineer. That is a little low, but like I said just one circuit. You could plug in another unused circuit or Two and see what they read.
I took one of those outlets apart, the wires are just pushed into a set of sharp receptors, a horrible connection, and they sometimes feed a second or third outlet off of it as well, I don't know how they get away with that. Tighter connection, less voltage drop. (To a point)
I'm glad you are checking it.
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Old 08-21-2006, 07:33 AM   #3
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Check that voltage at your recepticle B-4 it enters the unit.If this is at a camp ground you could be seeing low voltage at peek demand.

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Old 08-21-2006, 07:57 AM   #4
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That sounds pretty low to me. During the heat of the day everyone is likely running the AC and some fans, refrigerators are running hard, etc.. An autoformer will boost that voltage back up where it ought to be.

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Old 08-21-2006, 10:34 AM   #5
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FTR, My trailer is parked at my deer lease.

With all the Voltage drop inside the trailer on hot days, the Power Outlet box outside still reads 115 Volts. I have an AutoFormer but the boost light did not come on.

A note of interest here is the fact that I decided to unplug the frig from my trailer AC circuit and plug it directly into My RV outlet box. The frig has never worked so well as the Frig temperature did not get above 35°. I can't get to the Frig receptacle with my Volt meter, but it appears that receptacle is suffering with low voltage as other parts of my trailer.

Makes me wonder if my other appliances suffer from low voltage. My AC worked fine this past weekend but usually Freezes up. With me not runnig my frig through the trailer Circuit did I help My AC volts out ? hm.....


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Old 08-21-2006, 04:00 PM   #6
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I think you have an electrical service problem and not a problem with the Montana. What Amp service do you have at this camp?

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Old 08-21-2006, 05:11 PM   #7
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The Autoformer doesn't sense voltage drop inside your RV ... it senses voltage drop at the electric box you're plugged into. It will only boost you 10% of the reading at the power box if it drops below the threshold. For example on a hot day at the park with several RVs running their A/C's ... 105 volts at the power box will be boosted up to 115.5 volts by the autoformer. I got this info from a tech at Hughes.
As Ozz stated, most any electrical outlet now days uses a pronged keeper to hold the wires in the back as compared to making an eye loop on the end of the wire and securing it under a screw head on the side of the outlet as was common over 25 years ago. The side screws are still available on most home outlets you buy, but few contractors use them as poking the wire in the rear prong hole is much quicker despite the fact that the connection is poorer. Ahhh the price of progress!

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Old 08-21-2006, 06:27 PM   #8
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Some building codes require that you use the screw connectors. That is required here in BC, Canada.

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Old 08-22-2006, 02:48 AM   #9
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Our deer camp is at the end of a service line going through the Country side , but we have always had adequate power. I periodically check power with my Amp guage and Volt meter at the RV boxes throughout camp. The Outlet boxes maintain 115-127 Volts when I have checked them. Depends on the season.

In my instance, I am losing some Voltage through my trailer circuits, which I understand is normal. The puzzle is...what is normal. I will be rechecking the Voltage readings again and taking notes the next time I am at camp to see if maybe my trailer electric circuit is "abby normal".

And I know that the hot weather is partially to blame for the Volt drop and higher Amps. One of the fellow campers had trouble tripping his outside 30 amp breaker on arriving at camp. His Frig was already on and he tried to run the Air Conditioner, water heater and a ceiling fan. He normally can run these Units.





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Old 08-22-2006, 06:31 AM   #10
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I would say a 10% drop is not going to hurt.

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Old 08-22-2006, 07:57 AM   #11
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Correct on how the autoformer works. My gauge is plugged into a kitchen outlet and when I see a drop below the threshhold the autoformer kicks in an brings it back up 10%. Unless there is a problem with that particular circuit I'd guess the problem is the amount of draw in the park bringing the voltage down. In that case the autoformer shines. Or does for us. An electrical problem within the coach would be a different story, as noted.

I forgot the autoformer threshhold but it is well above the numbers he's seeing inside the coach. First he needs to figure out if he has a problem or if the park power is the problem.

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