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04-07-2020, 09:59 PM
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Montana Master
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Location: lake stevens
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If bike rack manufactures say do not use their racks in 5th Wheels, they obviously feel there is risk of failure. With that said Why not buy and use a rack rated for that use and not temp fate? It does not help sales telling customers not to use on 5er's so I am sure that they have data to support their decision that forces them to make those statements.
It is baffling...
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04-08-2020, 06:13 AM
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Montana Master
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There are several older threads on this topic on the forum. In short there are specific racks designed for use on the rear of a towed or towable. The vast majority of bike racks are not designed specifically to be used on the rear of towables. Etrailer does a good job of pointing out the approved environment for the bike racks they sell. The web pages for the each rack clearly indicate suitable installation environments. I have a Swagman that is specifically rated for use on the rear of a towable and suitable for e-kikes.
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04-20-2020, 08:34 PM
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Montana Fan
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I have a Hollywood with a 2" receiver and a tension adjustment. If you check it out you will find that it is a heavy, high quality product that does not move at all. Have a look.
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04-20-2020, 08:54 PM
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Montana Master
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob and Jeannette
I have a Hollywood with a 2" receiver and a tension adjustment. If you check it out you will find that it is a heavy, high quality product that does not move at all. Have a look.
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If it's the "RV Rider" model it is rated for use on towed verhicles and towable RV's. I don't think any of their other offerings are rated the same. Being rated for the purpose intended is key if you ever have a problem. Insurers will deny your claim and if someone else gets hurt by your rack's failure the liability is unnerving.
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04-21-2020, 02:41 AM
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New Member
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Bike rack
Thank you for the information.
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04-21-2020, 06:13 AM
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Montana Fan
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I don’t know it’s several years old. But I can just barely lift it and i can climb on it without it moving. I’ve always thought it remarkable.
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04-21-2020, 09:03 AM
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Montana Fan
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Location: Raleigh
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I like the Swagman rack for two standard 'comfort' bikes, but after reading the posts here I am very wary of putting any bike rack on the back of our 5er. Nowadays, at least on our 2019 Keystone Montana 319RL, Keystone eliminated the bumper and has only provided a welded-on 2" square receiver hitch that may barely clear the back of the camper if I'm lucky. Just don't feel good about a rack back there, so still not sure what to do for a bike rack.
We could use the 2"receiver hitch the previous owner of our tow truck installed to assist with a rack to carry two kayaks over the truck cab when pulling their fifth wheel. Also, read some not so positive post replies about carrying bikes on the front of the truck. Could put them inside the camper, but yet another hassle.
What to do, what to do? A conundrum.
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04-21-2020, 09:06 AM
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Montana Master
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I think that is an opinion shared frequently regarding bike racks on the forum. The issue is that a rack used on the tail end of a towed vehicle is subjected to oscillating lateral forces that fatigue the metal. The manufacturers have evidence that this fatigue has lead to failures and as such now have different modifications/designs to either offset, reduce or eliminate these lateral forces. There is a pretty good FAQ right up regarding this on RadRover site.
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04-21-2020, 09:35 AM
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Montana Fan
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Thanks for your input, but what is 'RadRover' site? Is that someone's handle, etc.?
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04-21-2020, 09:39 AM
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Montana Master
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Rad Rover is a brand of ebike. Google search will provide you with lots of info regarding Rad Rover.
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04-21-2020, 09:42 AM
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Montana Fan
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PNW Fireguy,
Thank you for clarifying!
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04-21-2020, 10:21 AM
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Montana Master
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Quote:
Originally Posted by John McLean
Thanks for your input, but what is 'RadRover' site? Is that someone's handle, etc.?
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The Rad Rovers is one model of the RAD e-bikes we just bought a rover for our son and wife and I have two RAD mini fold ups, however do not let the word mini fool you they weight the same as the full size Rads at 68lbs battery is 8lbs so you can reduce weight a little.
The RAD Mini's fold into a nice small package that you could put in the bed of the truck in front of the hitch. They would also fit in your basement
These bikes re amazing we have done two rides this week both 20 miles using less then 1/4 of the battery.
Here is how we travel with ours we only partially fold they will still fold in half again
Here it is folded
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04-21-2020, 10:26 AM
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Montana Fan
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Location: Raleigh
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I saw this earlier when I was first going through this posting. Our Monty does not have the slide that you have.
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04-21-2020, 10:28 AM
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Montana Master
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Quote:
Originally Posted by John McLean
I saw this earlier when I was first going through this posting. Our Monty does not have the slide that you have.
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They would also fit in our front basement or as I mentioned above in the bed of the truck in front of the hitch when folded, they are very compact when folded.
Or if you put a front hitch on your truck with a bike rack you could fold the handlebars down and you would not even see the bike in front.
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04-21-2020, 10:33 AM
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Montana Fan
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Thanks for your suggestions.
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04-22-2020, 08:01 AM
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Montana Master
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Quote:
Originally Posted by John McLean
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What to do, what to do? A conundrum.
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Pin box mount has worked well for us. No bouncing and keeps the bikes up and out of the way until needed.
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04-22-2020, 08:06 AM
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Montana Fan
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That looks great! Any problem backing up and turning?
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04-22-2020, 09:03 AM
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Montana Master
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob and Jeannette
That looks great! Any problem backing up and turning?
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No problem backing or turning. Easily clear truck cab. Pic shows two bikes. But I have also carried 3 adult bikes and might could even get a 4th. I have considered getting a bike rack that holds the wheels, but the one shown has worked well. Bungees keep the bikes from swaying. And they do not touch the trailer cap. I do have a long bed.
Rack was pretty simple to make. Uses pin box mounting bolts and everything is made square, so no angles to calculate. A few pieces of 2x2 angle iron and a cheap 12" receiver from Harbor Freight.
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04-22-2020, 09:25 AM
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Montana Fan
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BB,
Nice looking set-up. I was wondering, as I read your post, if you had a long bed truck. We have a 2003 GMC Sierra 2500HD and it is not a long bed, so consequently I will not be boing with a rack mounted to the pin box. I am sure some others that rear this forum will see your post and decide this will work for them.
Thanks for sharing
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05-22-2020, 08:52 AM
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BB,
I like the bracket, gives me an idea for a satellite antenna mount solution.
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