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09-16-2017, 09:58 AM
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Established Member
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: Uniontown
Posts: 14
M.O.C. #18457
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Spare Tire Mount Damage
A couple of times, I have lost the G rated spare tire when backing into a raised campsite with my 2011 3750FL that has the tire cable and tee in the back underneath the trailer. Well, on our current trip to New England states (specifically happened in NY), I was leaving a parking lot that was lower than the road. The back of the trailer dropped with the elevation difference. Not only did it drop the tire, the tire rack system is bent to the point where the gearing won't even turn the cable up or down.
The spare tire hangs very low on all these models. Has anyone else had this problem of the tire coming loose from the cable and tee mount? What has been your solutions? I don't want to add a tire rack to the back of the trailer, and of course there is no bumper. Currently hauling the spare in the truck bed, taking up more room.
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09-16-2017, 12:42 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Lake Gaston
Posts: 8,773
M.O.C. #12156
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Have never experienced the drag issue you describe. Have had the spare sag during travel. I use a ratchet cargo strap securing the tire to the mount just for piece of mind. Did ruin a mount years ago by cranking up the cable without the spare jamming the cable/gearbox beyond fixing.
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2002 3655 FL, 2005 3650RK
2010 3665RE, 2015 3910FB
F350 crew cab dually 6.7
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09-16-2017, 01:49 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Vancouver Island
Posts: 894
M.O.C. #14417
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I've always wondered if anybody ever had a problem with the spare hanging so low. When I had my Sailun tires put on the tire shop commented about it being so low. So far for me no problems.
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Lenny and Ros
2012 Montana 3400RL,680 Watts Solar,4xT-105 Trojans,GP-ISW2000-12 Inverter,Trimetric 2020, EMSHW50C
2009 Chevy Silverado 3500 LTZ Duramax 4x4 CC Dually, Banks Speed Brake
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09-16-2017, 01:54 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: North Ridgeville
Posts: 20,229
M.O.C. #2839
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Never a problem two Montana's 2006 till present.
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09-16-2017, 04:09 PM
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Site Team
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Wilsey
Posts: 18,799
M.O.C. #11455
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Never an issue for us also. Lots of years and lots of miles.
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09-16-2017, 07:20 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Tacoma
Posts: 1,567
M.O.C. #20475
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Have come close when we been on the off road but not yet.
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09-17-2017, 04:17 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Okeechobee
Posts: 2,150
M.O.C. #11206
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Hi
I have drug the rear frame but not the spare tire. As a matter of fact I guess I should remove that spare and put one of the G614’s I have in nits place.
Phil P
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09-17-2017, 08:07 AM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Hudson
Posts: 480
M.O.C. #2446
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If you have not found a solution. You should probably re-invent the wheel and move the whole assembly closer to the wheels. Only once have I had a drag issue and it wasn't the spare just the rear. It was at a gas station and didn't drag for long plus it was down hill but still sounded nasty. I stopped and inspected it and removed some paint on the rear beams. Did not hit the tire though and the ladder was fine. Little touch up paint was all that was required.
I had a problem with the spare tire loss on an old F350. Looked on line and found a winch assembly for a song and a dance. Purportedly for a f150. How much difference could there be. It was a dorman brand. for the short money it was worth the risk. It worked with a little wiggling of the screw holes. It would of been better if I drilled them out oversize.
MY point is you can get something else if your's is too damaged to repair and make something aftermarket work for you. Unless you are the type of it has to be original equipment OEM or nothing.
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Old 3255RL It is a weekend warrior and less than 15K miles. Mostly sits at the house. Home is where the heart is.
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11-04-2017, 04:34 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Aptos
Posts: 427
M.O.C. #11462
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All you can do is remove it and try straightening it out until you do it again. I have had that pleasure twice already, in Oregon and Maine. Just straighten it as best you can. Inconvenient, but cheaper then another one.
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11-04-2017, 06:12 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Chilliwack
Posts: 1,520
M.O.C. #12935
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Although I never did drag the tire and mount I always felt it was way too low and should have been located closer to the rear axle.
Here is what I did to resolve the issue after replacing my GY Marathons with GY G614's. I have a long box truck so this may not be an option on a short box truck. The rack fits in the hitch rails and is locked so cannot be removed, the tire is secured with 2 special nuts.
It serves another purpose and that is I cannot drop the trailer on my bed rails as the pin will hit the tire/rim before coming in contact with the rails. Solved two possible problems.
If I am going to be parked for any length of time I just remove the tire and rack although I seldom used this space anyway.
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11-05-2017, 03:21 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Hanover
Posts: 1,471
M.O.C. #13325
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At least 40k traveling miles with all kinds of dips and humps gone over and never had a problem. Have a ratchet strap to make certain the cable doesn't unwind on it's own, but that's never been needed either. Maybe yours is mounted further back than typical?
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11-05-2017, 03:23 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Okeechobee
Posts: 2,150
M.O.C. #11206
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Hi
Even though I have not had an issue with the spare tire I would be interested in that mount.
How about telling us who makes it and where to get one?
Phil P
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2009 Montana 3665RE
2009 Duramax 3500 DRW quad cab
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11-05-2017, 10:06 AM
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Established Member
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: Uniontown
Posts: 14
M.O.C. #18457
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Yep, I was able to straighten it out by placing a bottle jack on cribbing and forcing it back into place. Seems to work fine, although the shaft is slightly bent now so it wobbles when it's turned to raise and lower the cable and tee.
Phil P, Lippert is the manufacturer. You can buy it on Amazon.
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Noel & Pat
2011 3750FL, 5 x Goodyear G614s, front bike rack
2015 F350, KR, CCLB, DRW, B&W Puck Hitch
2 x Hobie Inflatable Kayaks
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11-05-2017, 11:38 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Chilliwack
Posts: 1,520
M.O.C. #12935
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Phil P
Hi
Even though I have not had an issue with the spare tire I would be interested in that mount.
How about telling us who makes it and where to get one?
Phil P
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Phil I am not sure if you were referring to my post and pictures or not but if you were then my tire mount is home made. I made it using 1" square tubing, a bit of flat bar for the tabs to the hitch rails and a piece of 1/8" plate I cut and bent to attach the tire. I purchased a set of 2 lock devices for the pins that hold it in the rails and lock it with a padlock which is visible in one of the pictures.
Easy project if you have a welder and a chop saw or angle grinder with metal cutting blades.
Cheers
Ed
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11-05-2017, 03:41 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Okeechobee
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M.O.C. #11206
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Thanks
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2009 Duramax 3500 DRW quad cab
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11-05-2017, 08:08 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Haysville
Posts: 4,261
M.O.C. #3085
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ohiomoen ... if you run with the fiver nose high as many do with the newer pickups ... you decrease the rear clearance and increase the chances of contact. I just don't get why the really new trucks sit so bed high with the bed box taller as well. It makes it tough to pull level and have adequate bed rail clearance..
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11-06-2017, 10:41 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: SWFL
Posts: 964
M.O.C. #17801
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No problem with mine. Don't know why you're so special!
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2016 Montana 3711FL
2005 Ford F350, 6.0 diesel, short bed
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