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Old 03-05-2017, 06:34 AM   #41
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Thank you for the info, looks like my wheels are 80 PSI. I would like the peace of mind of a G rated tire so it looks like I have to dig a little deeper for new wheels.
 
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Old 03-05-2017, 08:22 AM   #42
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......The question I had was, will the tire fit on a 6" wheel. Sailun specs say 6.5". The dealer told me that 6.5" was optimal but the tire can be mounted .5" either way with no problems.......
I had the same question and left a voicemail with Sailun on Friday; no response. I'll call again tomorrow, but I ordered the tires already and hope my installer knows the answer because my wheels are definitely 6". There's a video on youtube showing someone stepping on an unmounted TK tire to show how flimsy the sidewalls are, and doing the same with a Sailun with barely any deflection. I think it's criminal that Keystone could use TK load range D tires on an up to 16,000lb FW.
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Old 03-05-2017, 09:24 AM   #43
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I visited Big O Tires this morning and they quoted $1200 for 5 (spare) S637T 235/85/16 ST. That was mounted, balanced, and installed. The question I had was, will the tire fit on a 6" wheel. Sailun specs say 6.5". The dealer told me that 6.5" was optimal but the tire can be mounted .5" either way with no problems. The only thing left is to find the PSI stamp on the wheels. So far, I have not found it. There is a bunch of other stamps like Max load 3040lbs but no max PSI.

If it has 3040 max load, very much doubt they are rated for 110 psi. Sounds like 80 psi wheels.

As far as price, thats a terrible price quote from Big O. I was quoted 635.00 for a set of four, five would have been about 793.00. Thats here in the Salt Lake area.

It looks like you are headed for new wheels if you want to with a G rated tire.

Most wheels on these fifth wheels are 6", and are okay with the G rated tire .

If you have to go with new wheels, then get the 6.5 . If your present wheels were rated for 110 psi, they most likely would be rated for 3750, not 3040. Many put G rated tires on their OEM wheels rated for 110 psi that are the 6" wheel, I am one that does. I am on my second set of G rated tires on my OEM 6" wheels.
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Old 03-05-2017, 09:38 AM   #44
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I had the same question and left a voicemail with Sailun on Friday; no response. I'll call again tomorrow, but I ordered the tires already and hope my installer knows the answer because my wheels are definitely 6". There's a video on youtube showing someone stepping on an unmounted TK tire to show how flimsy the sidewalls are, and doing the same with a Sailun with barely any deflection. I think it's criminal that Keystone could use TK load range D tires on an up to 16,000lb FW.

I doubt the TK tire is a D rated tire, it has to be a E rated , and most likely 3400-3500 lb rating for a 16K GVWR fifth wheel.

I agree those OEM E rated ST tires are crappy. I changed mine out at around 18 months old.

I would have no concern with a 6" wheel as long as it has the 110 psi rating
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Old 03-05-2017, 11:48 AM   #45
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There is a store on EBay selling a set of 5 Sailuns (new) mounted on 16 X 6 Lynx aluminum wheels for $1485. With free shipping. Cost per Sailun breaks down to about $160. After subtracting wheels and mounting. If I can get the same deal on 16 X 6.5 wheels, it may be the way to go. So far, the lowest price I have run across is SimpleTire at $138. But shipping is $20. Per tire and then cost of mounting. Choices choices.....
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I visited Big O Tires this morning and they quoted $1200 for 5 (spare) S637T 235/85/16 ST. That was mounted, balanced, and installed. The question I had was, will the tire fit on a 6" wheel. Sailun specs say 6.5". The dealer told me that 6.5" was optimal but the tire can be mounted .5" either way with no problems. The only thing left is to find the PSI stamp on the wheels. So far, I have not found it. There is a bunch of other stamps like Max load 3040lbs but no max PSI.
Way too much IMO for those tires. Since you need new wheels, I'd go to trailertiresandwheels.com. You can get 5 tires AND new wheels for about $1600, free shipping.

The nice thing about that is, take the old wheels and tires, set them aside and when you trade or sell your trailer, put them back on so you keep your nice new wheels and tires. I'd call them and see if they mount and balance too. I believe they still do that as part of the deal.
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Old 03-05-2017, 12:07 PM   #47
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Way too much IMO for those tires. Since you need new wheels, I'd go to trailertiresandwheels.com. You can get 5 tires AND new wheels for about $1600, free shipping.

The nice thing about that is, take the old wheels and tires, set them aside and when you trade or sell your trailer, put them back on so you keep your nice new wheels and tires. I'd call them and see if they mount and balance too. I believe they still do that as part of the deal.
That's the seller on EBay that I was posting on above.
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There is a store on EBay selling a set of 5 Sailuns (new) mounted on 16 X 6 Lynx aluminum wheels for $1485. With free shipping. Cost per Sailun breaks down to about $160. After subtracting wheels and mounting. If I can get the same deal on 16 X 6.5 wheels, it may be the way to go. So far, the lowest price I have run across is SimpleTire at $138. But shipping is $20. Per tire and then cost of mounting. Choices choices.....

Thats a good price, as said don't get hung up on the 6" wheels, they work fine.

Only issue I would have is how old are the tires, and they should be able to give you the date on them. If they are just a few months old, you should be set to go.

The only other way i'd go if you HAVE to have 6.5 wheels is call around locally to see if they can price match the tires . I wouldn't pay anymore then $795.00 out the door for 5 tires all mounted ,and balanced. That leaves about $690.00, or $138.00 ea for a set of five 6.5 wheels which is very doable .

My quote from Big O tires in Salt lake as said $635.00 out the door for a set of four. That was the store on South Temple in Salt Lake , give them a call ,and ask if their $635.00 out the door price is still good from a month ago . Then just get a price match, I had no problem getting another tire store to do that.

On edit telephone # for that Salt Lake store is 801-519-8241
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I agree. Local Big O mounted, balanced and installed ours and hauled off the old Marathons for $200 per tire. Not a great deal but lot better than $240.
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I agree. Local Big O mounted, balanced and installed ours and hauled off the old Marathons for $200 per tire. Not a great deal but lot better than $240.
I like to see what I'm buying and check the date code
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"I doubt the TK tire is a D rated tire, it has to be a E rated , and most likely 3400-3500 lb rating for a 16K GVWR fifth wheel."

Oops, typo. They're E-rated and they're still inadequate.
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"I doubt the TK tire is a D rated tire, it has to be a E rated , and most likely 3400-3500 lb rating for a 16K GVWR fifth wheel."

Oops, typo. They're E-rated and they're still inadequate.

I agree
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Thats a good price, as said don't get hung up on the 6" wheels, they work fine.
His wheels aren't high pressure though. That is why I said he needs new wheels to get the full benefit out of these tires.
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I like to see what I'm buying and check the date code
I agree completely on this! I ordered G164's from Discount Tire. When they came in I checked them prior to installation and they were over 2 years old!! No thank you. They found a 5 month old set and I rescheduled.
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His wheels aren't high pressure though. That is why I said he needs new wheels to get the full benefit out of these tires.

I was referring to his indecision between the new set of tires and wheels on eBay with 6" rims or buying separately and getting 6.5" . If it's a good deal I wouldn't get hung up on them being 6".

I think I acknowledged the fact that he had 80 psi wheels ,but yes he needs the higher rated wheels for the G rated Sailun
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If you go up to a 6.5" wheel with the Sailuns, they may rub the fender due to the tire being more robust and wider. We had a few around here to do just that. Others are running them on 6" wheels with no problem. It would be your choice. However the ones that had the rubbing, it's easily cured by taking either the wheel off, or removing the fender and grinding a little off the lip. No problems then except in sharp turning instances which usually doesn't damage the fender.
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With all the tire stories got me concerned enough to make a change to the Saliun. Local Schwab dealer has them. Called Keystone for my 2014 HC and they said rims can handle the 110 PSI. Climbed under trailer to look for myself and can't see anything other than for trailer only and 3560 max load. May have number off. Guess I won't know until they pull the rim and current tires. Oh well want to have a little piece of mine, I hope.
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I pulled the trigger on 5 late 2016 Sailun S637 ST tires and 16 X 6.5 wheels from Trailertiresandwheels.com. I did a little upgrade on the wheels because I got caught up in the pretty pictures but that's ok. Mounted, balanced, and shipped to the DWs business. Made a lot of calls and didn't really find any better price once it was all said and done. Peace of mind and a spare... $1450.
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With all the tire stories got me concerned enough to make a change to the Saliun. Local Schwab dealer has them. Called Keystone for my 2014 HC and they said rims can handle the 110 PSI. Climbed under trailer to look for myself and can't see anything other than for trailer only and 3560 max load. May have number off. Guess I won't know until they pull the rim and current tires. Oh well want to have a little piece of mine, I hope.
I believe it should say either 3750 or 110 psi. That 3560 is an E rated wheel @ 80 psi.
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I pulled the trigger on 5 late 2016 Sailun S637 ST tires and 16 X 6.5 wheels from Trailertiresandwheels.com. I did a little upgrade on the wheels because I got caught up in the pretty pictures but that's ok. Mounted, balanced, and shipped to the DWs business. Made a lot of calls and didn't really find any better price once it was all said and done. Peace of mind and a spare... $1450.
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