Kipor generator - Montana Owners Club

rak · 10-19-2006, 03:20 PM

I am thinking about buying a Kipor KGE3000Ti 3000W generator. What do ou all think about this unit. It is somewhat cheaper than the Honda. Any feedback will be appreciated.
Dick

mallardjusted · 10-19-2006, 03:54 PM

Dick,

My brother-in-law has one. He has had no problems with it. I have the Honda 2000, and it compares very well as far as noise levels go. It has the 2300 watts continuous power, so he can run the air conditioning on his fifth wheel with the Kipor. It does weigh about 10 or so pounds more than mine, but is still not too bad. Since he has had no problems, I don't know how the customer service is for them ....

dieselguy · 10-19-2006, 03:58 PM

I have the 3500ti which is the same generator as the 3000ti ... Kipor just changed the label in late spring as the numbers were confusing to some in the US. I am satisfied with the purchase. It's quiet, runs my 15000 BTU A/C, and has the "smart throttle" feature that really cuts down the fuel consumption. Unless you're right stout, it's a 2 person load and unload operation as it weighs right at #140 fueled up. I bought a repair manual off EBay for handy information, but mine came with a 2 year warranty including back shipping if the need arises. The dual Honda setup is easier to handle, but I think rather pricey by the time you buy 2 generators and the adaptor to parallel them ... that decision is up to you. One last note: Although it will easily run my A/C with lights and TV, you have to use a little power management and alternate the use of the convection part of the microwave and electric hot water heater as these are high amperage draws.

LonnieB · 10-19-2006, 04:08 PM

There is a lengthy thread on this generator from April. I tried to post a link to it but I, unfortunetely, don't know what I'm doing, lol. Search the archives for April 2006, subject; Kipor Generator.

carlson · 10-19-2006, 04:39 PM

I purchased the 3000 watt Kipor last year.
It weights a little over 55 lbs.
It is quiet like the Honda.
Last weekend I ran it about 5 hrs per day to power the Montana and charge up the batteries.
I really like the unit and I paid $825 for it last year

Wrenchtraveller · 10-19-2006, 06:10 PM

I have a Kipor 2000. So far so good, a little harder starting than my Honda engines.

Tom Gina 06 · 10-19-2006, 07:48 PM

I also have the 3000ti model. Used it during the Sturgis bike rally last summer, had 100 + degrees and ran it all day long for a week with no problem. Pretty good on gas also, ran all day on one fill with the Smart Throttle off. The dealer I purchased it from said to run it with the Smart Throttle off when using the A/C. They encountered some problems with burning something out on it. Having had a couple returned they found that turning off the "S T" when using the A/C would cure the problem for some reason.

Now new news from another place I deal with. They have a new 6000ti watt model that looks the same with 4 wheels. Just a little heavier @ 205# and only 600-800 bucks more, cost of around 2000-2200. It also has the same quiet running sound and will light up the whole campground to boot. Arrgg Arrgg Arrgg even "Tim the tool man" would be impressed. Not to mention maybe hook up the nieghborhood and split the cost of operation.... Honey can I have an increase on my allowance now?

Seriously the 3000ti has been a very good investment for us. The price was right and since I do not use it all the time a very justifiable addition for the cost.

Remember the........

bobgay · 10-20-2006, 12:02 AM

I'm confused about the weight.

Carlson's weighs 50 lbs, but dieselguy's weighs 140? That's a pretty good spread. What am I missing here?
Bob

richfaa · 10-20-2006, 02:22 AM

The 55 lbs is a miss quote for the 3000/3500 kipor 140 lbs fueled is correct. We have the Kipor 3500 it is every bit as good as the Honda,80% of the parts are interchangeable. It will run the 15K air , tv and normal lighting as with any other generator of its size you will need to practice power management to run other high amp things at the same time. This unit has been around for a long time just not here in the USA. It is becoming more and more popular now as many Rv dealers are stocking it. Note..most Honda franchise stores will not work on the Kipor generator..however any independent repair shoip that does generator work can deal with the Kipor as one told me ..If you can work on the Honda you can work on the Kipor..

dieselguy · 10-20-2006, 02:24 AM

When first introduced to the US market the Kipor model numbers didn't reflect the actual wattage, so late spring some of the models were redesignated. As I mentioned earlier ... the 3500ti is now the 3000ti same generator different model number. The original 3000ti is now the 2600ti which is probably the generator mentioned by Carlson. The 2600ti although a good genset will not sucessfully power a 15000 BTU A/C as it is rated at 2600 watts and 2880 watts surge. It does weigh about half the 3000ti. I know this is all confusing and the Kipor website isn't much help. Do a search on the web for Kipor and several companies advertisements will get you straight. Several of us on this website have and use the Kipor 3000ti (formerly 3500ti)with no problems.

CampingCrazyShirley · 10-20-2006, 06:15 AM

We have a Kipor also...haven't had any problems with it and it seems to be very fuel efficient. Surprisingly quiet...Not sure which model we have...think it's the 3000.

mallardjusted · 10-20-2006, 06:24 AM

Re my earlier response - there is some confusion on the models. My brother-in-law has the one that weighs in at about 60 lbs, and puts out 2300 continuous watts. It runs his 15000 A/C with no problems. I have plugged his gen in my unit and run my 15000 btu A/C with NO PROBLEMS. I think the key is you can't have a lot of other things (especially something like the electric hot water) on while starting the A/C. (Actually, my honda 2000 will run my A/C, but it struggles to get it initiated, so I'm not chancing burning something up.)

If you decide to go with the Kipor, look for the model that is under 70 lbs, has 2300 continuous watts, and is under 60 db noise rated.

richfaa · 10-20-2006, 04:35 PM

The Kipor model numbers are a bit confusing due to changes but Dieselguy has it right. I have the 3500ti now called the 3000ti it weighs in at @ 140 lbs with full fuel. It starts up and runs the 15K A/C, Tv and normal lighting with no effort. It is a good generator..so is the Honda.I think the 2 Honda 2000's are the best set up for all conditions but that set up is very expensive. Mine sets in the side of the LB F-350 near the tailgate and does not leave the truck..It was a trade off but it works for us...

mallardjusted · 10-20-2006, 06:20 PM

richfaa,

I wonder if some vendors still don't call the model you have the 3500? Here is the info for the KGE3000Ti direct from the Amazon.com site:

Technical Details
- Max 2,600 Watts & 2,300 Watts continuous output for wide range of applications
- Low noise design, about 59 dB at 22 feet at full load. 54 dB at idle speed
- 4.2 hours running on a single fuel tank at full load. 16 hours at idle
- Perfect and stable sinewave output at 120V good for all electronics devices
- Quiet, Light Weight, & Portable (57 lbs) with built-in computer inverter
technology
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Product Description
Kipor Sinemaster KGE3000Ti digital inverter generator

dieselguy · 10-21-2006, 01:46 AM

Matt: I think you’re onto something with the model numbers … depends on age of stock in a vendors inventory. If you will note, recently at least here in the Midwest, the 2600 watt model is hard to come by (as in out of stock.) I wonder if Kipor is dropping this model in the US? The 1000W, 2000W, and 3000W models are still readily available. Not to argue with you (much anyways) on your success with the 2600W powering the A/C, I think it all depends on the brand of A/C and the size of start capacitor it has. I had the opportunity to compare a 2600W at the lake this summer. I will agree with you that it will start the A/C on the first 2 or 3 cycles, but as the day progresses and the compressor gets good and hot, the 2600W tripped out when trying to start between cycles with the thermostat set in the auto mode. I had no other load on the genset, just A/C and of course the converter. At 140#, and not near as easy to wrestle around, the 3000W has a 30 amp twist-loc receptacle compared to a standard 15 amp receptacle found on the smaller gensets … a feature that I feel is a mandatory for the power draws of today’s rigs. You’ll find that standard 110 volt duplex receptacle will get pretty darn warm with the current draw of say an A/C. Moving back into my corner of the ring … dieselguy

richfaa · 10-21-2006, 03:05 AM

This model number change is more confusing than I thought...I got my 3500ti when I got my Montana 3400 in May of 2006,,here are the spec's . I also note that my 3500ti was built on 1/19/2006

Rated frequency (Hz): 60
Rated voltage (V): 120
Rated current (A): 23.3
Rated output power: 2800 watts
Max output power: 3000 watts
Rated rotation speed (rpm): 3600
DC output: 12V-8.3A
Phase number: Single phase
Overall dimension (in)(LxWxH): 27.0 x 16.7 x 19.9
Dry weight [kg (lbs)]: 60 (132)
Continuous running time (hr)(rated output): 20hrs 1/4 load, 8 hours full load
Noise level[dB(A)/7m]: 60 no load - 64 full load
Engine model: KG205GTi
Displacement [L (cc)]: 0.2 (200)
Rated power[kW (PS)/rpm]: 4.0(5.5)/3600
Ignition system: T.C.I.
Engine type: Single cylinder, 4-stroke, vertical,air-cooled, overhead valve, gasoline engine
Starter system: Electric Start
Fuel type: Automotive unleaded gasoline
Lube brand: SAE10W30 (above CC grade)
Low oil pressure alert system: Yes
Spark plug: F6RTC

I note that the 3500 is no longer listed on the Kipor site but the spec's for the listed 3000 are the same as my 3500ti.

kegger5769 · 11-15-2006, 04:16 AM

I am looking at the Kipor 3000ti and see that it does not have a 30 amp twist lock plug but see an adapter that takes the to 2 15 amp plug and make it a 30 amp twist lock, does anyone use this adapter set up and does it work to give you the 23.3 amps the kipor puts out. I found some 3500ti's that have to 30 amp twist lock plug build into them but if to 3000ti with the adapter work the same as the 3500ti I can save 200+ getting the 3000ti.
Thanks for your help clearing my confusion up.....
Kim (kegger5769)

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