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Old 08-30-2019, 11:06 AM   #1
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Question Towing capacity

Wondering if I have enough truck for what I am towing here are the numbers
2015 Chevy Silverado SRW 3500 Duramax crew cab
Gvwr 11500
Gawr front 6000
Gawr rear. 7050

Had truck and trailer weighed at cat scale
Steer axle 4940
Drive axle 6480
Trailer axles 10400
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Old 08-30-2019, 11:18 AM   #2
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you are at 11420. Truck is rated at 11500.
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Old 08-30-2019, 11:58 AM   #3
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Were you weighed loaded for travel? All your stuff plus people? If not, then you will be over the 11,500.
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Old 08-30-2019, 01:52 PM   #4
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Drive it and see how it feels. Does it feel safe or is it a white knuckle experience.
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Old 08-30-2019, 02:20 PM   #5
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Drive it and see how it feels. Does it feel safe or is it a white knuckle experience.
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I have driven it as far as 800 miles on a trip it is not a white knuckling I feel confident in how it handles
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How it "feels" is irrelevant, it's the numbers that count.
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Old 08-30-2019, 02:50 PM   #7
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I have driven it as far as 800 miles on a trip it is not a white knuckling I feel confident in how it handles
I would drive it.
Go look up 2807 tow ratings read them and you will see why.
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Old 08-30-2019, 02:56 PM   #8
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here we go again....
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Old 08-30-2019, 04:41 PM   #9
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here we go again....
Yep I recon so. Funny how the same triggering questions get asked over and over again. I'm about ready to save my canned answers somewhere so I can just copy and paste.......
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Old 08-30-2019, 05:01 PM   #10
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That is a great idea Jim. Maybe someone could put everybody’s answer in a folder then just copy and paste, done. Then the OP could just make up his own mind.
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Old 08-30-2019, 05:12 PM   #11
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My usual two cents worth is:


I understand that some folks can't afford to be trading in their current truck just to get one that is truly suitable for towing their 5th wheel. Sometimes you have to run with what you brought to the track. And sometimes your circumstances require that you do something other than the recommended practice. Everyone on here gets that.


But if your in a situation where you are about to trade or buy a new truck and particularly if your NEW to towing a large trailer then here are my suggestions:


Do our homework! As you already have get the real life weight details on your camper and the tow ratings on the truck you plan to tow with. Sounds like the OP is already well on his way in that category.


Strongly consider how you will use your camper and truck (IE: will you be towing daily or just once every 6 months. Is your tow vehicle your only transportation or do you have a second vehicle etc....).


IF you have friends with similar campers and trucks like you are considering try to get a little time behind the wheel with different setups. I can tell you from experience that the difference for ME between a 3/4 ton SRW and a 1 ton Dually was very dramatic! But YOU may not feel the same way.


Take into consideration that you may well move up to a larger camper before your ready for a new truck. I know the vast majority (I didn't say EVERYONE just the vast majority) of folks start off with a smaller unit and end up with the biggest one on they can afford. This seems to be particularly true of folks just starting out. Heck we started with a slide in camper on a 1/2 ton and are on our 4th unit in only 6 years (each one larger than the previous).


I don't think I will get much argument that Diesel is the only way to go. I think it is safe to say that at least 90% of the folks on here would agree with that even if they are not driving one. The engine brake alone is worth the difference in cost.


Where a lot of folks will part company is when it comes down to your original question "Do I have ENOUGH truck" based on towing/weight capacity? My thoughts has always look at all the numbers and answers to the questions above and if there is nothing to stop you buy the NEXT size larger than you need. If you only need a 1/2 ton buy a 3/4 ton, if you need a 3/4 buy a 1 ton SRW and if a 1 ton SRW barely gets you past the weight recommended weight capacity go with a 1 ton dually. That way your towing with full confidence. At the very least run don't walk away from anyone that suggests towing overloaded. They don't have YOUR best interest in mind! ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS err on the side of safety!!!


There are going to be lots of folks on here that will rail against a dually and I get that. They are not for everyone. But a lot of folks do buy them and it isn't because they prefer to drive around a wide &^% ended truck!! Folks can say what they will but a 1 ton Dually is the best truck for towing a larger Montana 5th wheel if that is all you are doing with it. You will be well within safety margins with any current Montana model with a 1 ton dually (as far as I am aware).


Good luck and best wishes. I will now sit back with my popcorn and enjoy the show.
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That is a great idea Jim. Maybe someone could put everybody’s answer in a folder then just copy and paste, done. Then the OP could just make up his own mind.
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Maybe someone has a spreadsheet with the maximum loaded weights on all the current Montana models and maximum tow numbers on all the common tow trucks that could be posted for reference. Obviously there are a LOT of folks out there new to the game that need some guidance?
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Take into consideration that you may well move up to a larger camper before your ready for a new truck. I know the vast majority (I didn't say EVERYONE just the vast majority) of folks start off with a smaller unit and end up with the biggest one on they can afford

I started off in a 6-man tent.
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I'll date myself, but we started with a two person pup tent and a 1972 Vega Hatchback.
Pulled that Pup Tent around with no problems. LOL
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I started off in a 6-man tent.
LOL well I was only talking about things we have to tow. I could go back to the little tent in my parents back yard but I'm too old to remember that anyway......
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Maybe someone has a spreadsheet with the maximum loaded weights on all the current Montana models and maximum tow numbers on all the common tow trucks that could be posted for reference. Obviously there are a LOT of folks out there new to the game that need some guidance?

I agree along with that maybe they could post the 2807 tow limits so they could understand how these numbers are calculated. Then they could make a truly informed decision.
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I know this is getting a little off topic. I remember my first camping trip. It was February 1967 at Fort Dix Nj. in a pulp tent. The platoon didn’t mind. We got to go home in 16 weeks and the poor old Sargent had to stay. Every morning they brought abound split pea soup. It was awful but I ate two cups of it. Man was it good.
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Maybe we need a new thread titled How I got started camping
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you are okay.... relax.
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I agree with James in post#12 about some type of folder or matrix that could help an average person read and plug numbers into a datasheet and understand the significant terms on the vehicle labels and how to make sense of them. Such things as pin weight, cargo weight, UVW and how to utilize the specs on the truck datasheets online. Many new users will take the GCWR (25K), the trailer weight (13K or Max wt on label) and truck wt (8K) add together and call it a day.
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