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11-10-2009, 07:06 AM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Port Orchard
Posts: 126
M.O.C. #7372
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Dropped Rig
Well I joined the ranks of dropping the 5th wheel on the railes of the truck (Sept on my birthday). Truck is fixed, but now that it is raining found leak where cap meets roof. Long story short, make sure you check things out and ensure there are no other problems when somthing like this happens.
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11-10-2009, 07:27 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Grand Blanc
Posts: 2,508
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Jim, I am sorry for your bad fortune. I thought that this would never happen to me and then saw on this forum that others that it has happened to have thought the same thing. Bottom line, I just installed a bed saver to my hitch. Still hope it never happens but hopefully am now protected. - Jim
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11-10-2009, 07:29 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Murrieta
Posts: 5,816
M.O.C. #9257
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Do you know what caused this? Forgot to latch, pin failure, didn't check, etc.? Sorry to hear about that.
There is a device called a "Bed saver" that gets attached to the 5er hitch in the truck and it will "catch" a 5th wheel if it becomes loose and prevent some damage. It is called a bed saver, but I think it saves the bed rails and trailer more than the bed. Here is a link to one manufacturer but there are many more.
http://www.rvwholesalers.com/catalog...m-14-8925.html
Good luck in completing the repairs.
On edit: Just saw boylanag's post and see he's got a bed saver. I have an F-250 and am very concerned about adding any more weight on the rear axle, but what would be the weight of a bed saver itself that is capable of support a 14,000lb trailer if it comes loose?
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11-10-2009, 07:44 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: New Bern
Posts: 4,370
M.O.C. #8728
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Bed Saver is cheap insurance.
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11-10-2009, 07:51 AM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Port Orchard
Posts: 126
M.O.C. #7372
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Art, Just didn't back completely into hitch and missed check to ensue it had captured kingpin. Was having trouble starting truck and was frustrated (at 5000ft, 39 degrees and 5 bad glow plugs). Just goes to show that you need to follow your routine all the time. Jim
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11-10-2009, 08:31 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Murrieta
Posts: 5,816
M.O.C. #9257
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My fear, too. But I've been fortunate so far and hope I can stay focused. Sorry to hear about the truck problems. That will certainly mess with your mind. Thanks for sharing.
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11-10-2009, 09:27 AM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Raceland
Posts: 409
M.O.C. #2389
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WOW sorry to hear what happened but your not the first and you want be the last but it still hurts.......
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11-10-2009, 11:47 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Olympia
Posts: 1,058
M.O.C. #9441
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I am sorry to hear about dropping your rig on your bed. Last Aug I stopped at Seven Feathers in Or. for fuel and in pulled two older 1 ton Dodges with the beds beat to a pulp, with the back of the cab smashed. I made a comment to the guy pumping my fuel about the trucks and he laughed and said they were local folks that deliver 5 wheels for a living! It looked like they had dropped at least 10 times on each of them. I can understand when things are not going right sometimes I forget a step or two. The last thing I do is lift my tailgate and close it,at that time I look at the back of my hitch to make sure it closed right.
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11-10-2009, 12:29 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: May 2003
Location: New Bern
Posts: 4,294
M.O.C. #311
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Sorry about the drop. Best of luck. I also bought the Bed Saver insurance policy.
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11-10-2009, 12:48 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: South Shore
Posts: 6,009
M.O.C. #7110
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Jim, sorry to hear about your accident! There is usually an under lying cause as to something that will distract someone when this happens. Myself I was in a hurry and took some short cuts. I have a bed-saver now after I dropped mine about a year ago. Haven’t needed it but it is worth it’s weight in gold so to speak just knowing it’s back there.
I tried to find a link to the thread my story was on but I couldn’t find it. Anyway I was very fortunate where I had the legs almost all the way down which avoided damage. At least it was very minimal.
Art, I believe my bed-saver only adds about 40-60 pounds, just guessing. It really isn’t that much additional weight to be concerned with. I put it on myself in just a few minutes.
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11-10-2009, 03:15 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Omaha
Posts: 2,076
M.O.C. #2780
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we just got a bed saver--they are made by Blue Ox here in Nebraska. The shipping weight on the package when it came was 41.6 pounds. we got it from carparts.com
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11-10-2009, 11:17 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Waterford
Posts: 3,693
M.O.C. #7500
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We also have a Blue Ox. Weight is dependent on your type of hitch. We have the Reese Signature Series and the shipping weight on the Blue Ox was 80 pounds. Took about a half hour to install.
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11-11-2009, 01:58 AM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Signal Mtn.
Posts: 280
M.O.C. #8206
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Jim, sorry about your drop. Right after I purchased my Monty I was reading here on the MOC forum about how easy it is to make a mistake and drop the RV so I immediately went to the Blue Ox web site and purchased one of their Pin Lock devices. I looked at both their Bed Saver and Pin Lock products and decided that I personally liked the Pin Lock better than the Bed Saver. It is a little more compact and would seem to me to put less leverage pressure on the hitch should a drop occur. Either way they will give you the peace of mind that if you should ever make a mistake again they will save you a lot of damage to your TV and/or RV. So far I have not made a mistake yet and had to test out their functionally. But IMHO I would advise that you buy one of their products. Here is the url for Blue Ox: http://www.blueox.us/BedSaver/bedsaver.htm In the picture, on their web site, the Bed Saver is on the left and the Pin Lock is on the right. The part of the Pin Lock picture that is yellow is the actual Pin Lock. It is just shown installed on a hitch.
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11-11-2009, 04:16 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Waterford
Posts: 3,693
M.O.C. #7500
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Unfortunately the Pin Lock isn't made for all hitches.
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11-11-2009, 05:35 AM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Signal Mtn.
Posts: 280
M.O.C. #8206
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Your right Tom it isn't. There are several hitches that the Bed Saver is made for that the Pin Lock is not. Thanks for pointing that out.
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11-11-2009, 06:41 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Hesperia
Posts: 1,321
M.O.C. #7787
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Quote:
quote:Originally posted by Tom S.
We also have a Blue Ox. Weight is dependent on your type of hitch. We have the Reese Signature Series and the shipping weight on the Blue Ox was 80 pounds. Took about a half hour to install.
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Tom, do you have a stock pin box.
Last time I looked into a bed saver for the signature series it wouldn't fit with any pin box other than the stock one.
Jack
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11-11-2009, 08:19 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Casa Grande
Posts: 5,369
M.O.C. #6333
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There is at least one hitch that neither fits, that is a Trailersaver air hitch. Too bad, I would buy one in a heartbeat if they did.......
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11-11-2009, 10:12 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Dillon KOA
Posts: 1,291
M.O.C. #7445
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Jim, we were so sorry to hear about your "learning experience." We have a bed-saver, the Blue Ox brand, which you might have seen at the 7 Feathers rally since you were parked next to us. I wish I could remember where we got it because it was on sale (on the internet) at a great price with FREE SHIPPING. I do remember that when I Googled "Blue Ox" and "free shipping," I did get more than one hit. I'd certainly look around before I bought one, because the prices vary wildly if my shopping experience was typical.
Wayne & Carolyn
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11-11-2009, 11:01 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Waterford
Posts: 3,693
M.O.C. #7500
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Quote:
quote:Originally posted by jjackflash
Quote:
quote:Originally posted by Tom S.
We also have a Blue Ox. Weight is dependent on your type of hitch. We have the Reese Signature Series and the shipping weight on the Blue Ox was 80 pounds. Took about a half hour to install.
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Tom, do you have a stock pin box.
Last time I looked into a bed saver for the signature series it wouldn't fit with any pin box other than the stock one.
Jack
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I started out with the stock box, but I was thinking about up grading, so I asked if it would still work. Their reply was they weren't aware of any pin box it wouldn't work with. Any way, I can attest (by measuring - not by trying it!) that it works with the stock one and with the Mor-Ryde we now have.
EDIT: BTW, we got ours at AdventureRV for $202.24 including shipping.
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11-11-2009, 12:43 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Hesperia
Posts: 1,321
M.O.C. #7787
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Thanks for the info Tom.
The main reason I asked was because of the statement on their installation manual,check it out.
http://www.blueox.us/PDFS/BXR4105.pdf
Once you upgrade,Id appreciate it if you would let me know how it fits.
Jack
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