Journey with Confidence RV GPS App RV Trip Planner RV LIFE Campground Reviews RV Maintenance Take a Speed Test Free 7 Day Trial ×
 

Go Back   Montana Owners Club - Keystone Montana 5th Wheel Forum > GENERAL DISCUSSIONS > Tow Vehicles & Towing
Click Here to Login

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
Old 06-15-2011, 06:37 PM   #1
Bill-N-Donna
Montana Master
 
Bill-N-Donna's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: South Shore
Posts: 6,009
M.O.C. #7110
"I guess it was my turn!"



Pictures are worth a thousand words!
I didn’t know I had a problem until someone pulled up beside us and started honking and pointing. I have no clue as to how long it had been going on but I suspect it wasn’t for very long.





I would like to say this! These tires were on our camper when we purchased it used in 07. I know from reading the forum most people would change them at an interval of every 5-6 years due to the age of them. I don’t know how old they actually are. I watch for dry rot and tire wear. I have not been real concerned with the age of them because they appeared to be in good shape. No sign of dry rot, etc… These are General tires and this is the first problem I’ve had with them.

I don’t know what caused this but I do have a theory. Just before we left I released the tire chocks on that side and the camper tried to roll a very small amount. The top part of the chock became twisted between the tires. I had to pull forward to release the tension to remove the chock. My theory is that it may have caused a leak by pinching a small rock or something. This is only a theory I really don’t know what happened. We made it home without any more problems. I’m debating whether or not I should go ahead and replace all of them just for good measure.

On Edit: Changed photo link
 
__________________
2011 GMC 4X4 dually CC, 6.6 Duramax with Allison Transmission. Formally 2001 Montana,2007 3400RL Montana, presently 2018 3401RS Alpine.
Bill-N-Donna is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-15-2011, 06:54 PM   #2
pbahlin
Montana Master
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Sioux Falls
Posts: 617
M.O.C. #9380
I'd get the date code from the tires. If they're 5 years old I would change all.
pbahlin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-15-2011, 07:37 PM   #3
kingdaddy
Montana Master
 
kingdaddy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Anytown
Posts: 609
M.O.C. #10966
Wow, now THAT'S what I call a flat tire! Fortunate there wasn't more damage to the trailer...I would absolutely change out all the tires! Be interesting to know how old they actually are too.
__________________
2011 Montana 3580RL with a Reese 20k GooseBox w/offset B&W ball, Sailuns, RoadMaster shocks, Splendide stacked washer/dryer, some other stuff...
2015 Ram 3500 DRW Laramie Megacab, Aisin w/3.73s, 255/80 17 Toyos A/T III, rear auto level, 40 gal. fuel/tool combo box, some Banks mods...
kingdaddy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-15-2011, 11:50 PM   #4
maximo
Montana Master
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Ione
Posts: 582
M.O.C. #11371
If your camper is a 2001 and you got it in 2007 and never changed the tires they could be 11 years old. If the tires were put on new just prior to you buying it the tires could be at least 5 years old now. I would change them all.

Frank
maximo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-16-2011, 12:58 AM   #5
indy roadrunner
Montana Master
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Brownsburg
Posts: 1,186
M.O.C. #5634
Here is how to determine age of tire.

Tires Manufactured Since 2000
Since 2000, the week and year the tire was produced has been provided by the last four digits of the Tire Identification Number with the 2 digits being used to identify the week immediately preceding the 2 digits used to identify the year.

Example
DOT U2LL LMLR 5107
DOT U2LL LMLR 5107 Manufactured during the 51st week of the year
DOT U2LL LMLR 5107 Manufactured during 2007
indy roadrunner is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-16-2011, 02:17 AM   #6
Waynem
Montana Master
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Texas City
Posts: 5,736
M.O.C. #7673
Bill,
As stated, if old tires replace them.

Having said that, consider now that you rode for an undetermined amount of time on one tire. By doing that you doubled the load on that tire, and may have exceeded the tire manufacturers recommended weight load. This will most usually cause a problem on that tire. Just looking at them may not determine if you have stressed the side walls. Only a reputable tire company with the electronic equipment would be able to determine for sure, but a good guess is that they are stressed. With that in mind, my personal opinion is that as a minimum both of the tires on that same side should be replaced. Remember, your safety is riding on them.

Good luck.
Waynem is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-16-2011, 03:01 AM   #7
richfaa
Montana Master
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: North Ridgeville
Posts: 20,229
M.O.C. #2839
Sounds like a wake up call to replace all tires. We have the Generals on the 3400 for two years now. They are actually 3 years old. We als have the TPMS which would have warned us of that failure.
richfaa is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-16-2011, 03:11 AM   #8
kramperD
Montana Fan
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Mansfield
Posts: 330
M.O.C. #8078
Glad you're okay!
__________________
Deets
kramperD is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-16-2011, 03:16 AM   #9
Bill-N-Donna
Montana Master
 
Bill-N-Donna's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: South Shore
Posts: 6,009
M.O.C. #7110

I looked at the DOT# on the blown tire, amazingly I could still read it. Not sure what it all means but here is the number. Looks to me like July of 01. IF that’s the case I certainly will be changing them. This is the number on the tire. ”DOT ADOR 1JC 0701”
Now what tires would be best?
Bill-N-Donna is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-16-2011, 03:36 AM   #10
CORattler
Montana Master
 
CORattler's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Colorado Springs
Posts: 3,335
M.O.C. #10496
Wow! Glad you are OK. Looks like minimal damage to the exterior side of the RV. You'll definitely want to carefully inspect the back side of the wheel well and brake wires as well. I agree with others that all tires need to be replaced. Which brand? That question will elicit many responses I'm sure. Fortunately, there's lots of posts on the forum for that subject. You can see in my signature what I decided to replace my Marabombs with.
__________________
2010 3150RL
LevelUp, Dual 6 volt batteries, Progressive Industries EMS HW50C, Honda EU2000i Generator, Bridgestone Duravis R250 tires, Torklift Glowstep Revolution Stairs, LED Tail lights
2015 RAM 3500 Laramie SRW LB CC Cummins 6.7L Aisin Trans B&W RVK3600
CORattler is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-16-2011, 04:06 AM   #11
stiles watson
Montana Master
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Leona
Posts: 6,382
M.O.C. #2059
As you have just learned, Looks have very little to do with it. Rubber has a life span. I am sorry for your blowout. In my opinion, you were fortunate regarding the amount of damage caused unless the picture does not reveal it all. Two blowouts on my first Big Sky (2003)caused $2500 each in damages. By-the-way, they were Generals and looked good until they separated and like you, someone had to tell me.
stiles watson is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-16-2011, 06:29 AM   #12
DarMar
Montana Master
 
DarMar's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Brandon
Posts: 3,944
M.O.C. #1034
Again, as Stiles stated, it appears you were fortunate to not have much damage done from the way this went down. If the rest of the tires are the same (01) code that is pretty amazing life from an rv tire and now it's decision time. Keep us posted.
__________________
Darwin & Maureen DeBackere
Minnedosa, Manitoba, Canada
2011/3500/Silverado/4x4/DRW/Duramax
2017/3721RL/Legacy Pkg./Pressure-Pro
DarMar is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-16-2011, 04:01 PM   #13
Waynem
Montana Master
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Texas City
Posts: 5,736
M.O.C. #7673
Bill,
0701 is the 7th week of 2001. That would put the tires being manufactured in the 3rd week of February of 01. Those tires have exceeded their lifetime. Shoot them, and replace them.
Waynem is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-17-2011, 02:46 AM   #14
Delaine and Lindy
Montana Master
 
Delaine and Lindy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Lobelville
Posts: 2,128
M.O.C. #6650
Sorry for you incident, tires that blow out are a hazzard to 5th wheels or any veh for that matter.. I seriously would look into a Pressure Pro System, a monitor system would have warned you of the loss of air pressure. Thank goodness there weren't more damage.
Delaine and Lindy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-17-2011, 12:39 PM   #15
Art-n-Marge
Montana Master
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Murrieta
Posts: 5,816
M.O.C. #9257
Send a message via MSN to Art-n-Marge Send a message via Yahoo to Art-n-Marge
Yup Bill and Donna, as Wayne corrected the 07 is the WEEK of the calendar year 2001 that these tires were manufactured per Indyroadrunner's explanation. These tires are 5 months older than the July, 2001 you calculated.

Sometimes the DOT code is only 8 characters long because the longer code is on the inside of the tire. The short version will always state the location of manufacture and the date code. In the code you posted, these tires were made in Kentucky in the good ole USA.

This one is a no-brainer. You are LUCKY this is your first problem. It's probably true that maybe the mishap with the chock help move things along, but these tires are over 10 years old!

Let us know what you get as replacements! You can at least be proud that you got that many (very lucky) years from them. That should be some kind of tribute on how you take care of your tires.
Art-n-Marge is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-07-2011, 03:31 AM   #16
exav8tr
Montana Master
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Casa Grande
Posts: 5,369
M.O.C. #6333
I would say that ten years is a prety good track record. Maybe, just maybe, another set of the same is in order. LonnieB, the resident tire expert might be along shortly to give his advice. By the way, your rims should be able to handle the Goodyear G614RST which has a max weight of 3750 lbs and a max pressure of 110 psi. However with the weight on my trailer I only air them to 95 psi according to the Goodyear Tire and Loading chart.
exav8tr is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Guess it was my turn 1retired06 General Discussions about our Montanas 5 06-06-2016 06:07 AM
Guess who I ran into Waynem Sitting around the Campfire 2 10-09-2010 06:52 AM
Can You Guess What It Is? Waynem Sitting around the Campfire 4 01-16-2009 08:29 AM
Guess what we got!!!!! Icehouse Internet & Cell Phones 9 02-26-2008 07:32 AM
I guess we'll keep it... Little Rascal Member News 5 07-29-2006 06:15 AM

» Featured Campgrounds

Reviews provided by

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.3
Disclaimer:

This website is not affiliated with or endorsed by Montana RV, Keystone RV Company or any of its affiliates. This is an independent, unofficial site.


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 02:08 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.9
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.